The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo

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  caesar963
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  

  Intriguing. There’s a rash of Putin prop bots about the place. I’d advise them to take note of this work, but their own menticide has likely progressed too far.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Redwall1
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  

  Thank you so much

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  erouting
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  About 15 years ago they starting to use fMRI to fine tune advertising, product design and political messaging in the US. Communism uses mental manipulations to directly secure power, capitalism uses it to sell us widgets we don’t need and political candidates that act against the interest of the general population.

  I question whether people are free if they’re being manipulated to the point that many of them are unable to effectively exercise free will, or are unable to discern accurate information on which to base actions due to the propagandized character of modern media.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  A minority of a pop are interested in politics, & often only at a “me want” level of engagement. And that’s in reasonably well-educated Europe. Even fewer people trust politicians or journalists - of any stripe. Info sources are indeed heavily compromised.
  The reason I’d almost trust my own country’s media would be that it’s quite staid & cautious. Also, there’s a reasonable tradition of reliability & free press there.

  Many of us only have time to “cultivate our own garden.”

  It’s just when people start routinely believing conspiracy/hate sites, or despotic state media, that a real problem emerges. You encounter a disturbing level of that stuff online. They’re aggressively vociferous as phck.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  pryderi
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  

  I’ve always wondered why anybody would bother with all the effort of brainwashing when it is so easy to just lie to folk.

  As a case in point: Joost wasn’t even his real name.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  Crikey, that’s a revealing insight into your moral character right there.

  We’re all using our real names now?
  People often had to change their names due to anti-Semitic types. Then, when the anti-Semite finds out about the real name, they like to present it as a “Gotcha!” moment. You know the type…

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  butthammer
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  *checks early life section*

  every single time.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  Another QED. In just a couple of moves as well.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  fall19
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  Good thing he escaped to the land of the free where they dont do things like that on civilians, *cough, MK-Ultra.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 3rd, 2023
  

  Well, he did warn that it wasn’t just a feature of left/right ideological regimes, but also a substantial risk in liberal democracies.
  In that connexion, he highlighted the coercive power of technology, bureaucracy, prejudice, & mass delusion.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  chrisbod
  January 4th, 2023
  

  Why is it always MDs that come up with psuedoscientific stuff? Or more appropriately why is it psuedoscientific crap requires people to add extra initials to the end of their names (or before) on the cover in an attempt to make it sound scientific. Oh crap

  Dr AnsweredMyOwnQuestion MD BSc PHd FkTrd

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  apnea
  January 4th, 2023
  

  Brainwashing = Putin dun it!

  Dun what? Every evil evil deed since time immemorial & all those to come.

  The more they hate him the less they know.

  Fact - Since the end of WW2 no nation has killed more people from foreign nations (directly & via sanctions) than the USA has. In addition they have committed the most non lethal human rights violations.

  The record on this is well documented & beyond dispute. Read it for yourself.

  *List of Atrocities committed by US authorities*

  Definition: An extremely wicked or cruel act, typically one involving physical violence or injury.

  “If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings.” - Nelson Mandela

  https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html

  If the US was ever the good guys, it was long before any of you were born.

  So many tiny hearted humans NEED their Putins. Truly, I find it rather sad how so many have fallen for this unsophisticated, kindergarten cartoon level propaganda & have gleefully joined witch hunting & destroying the life of any Russian expat living & working in the west if they don’t do cartwheels & somersaults while loudly denouncing Putin & 1000 years of Russian culture. Shame on all of you. Actually, it’s not new. It’s US lead cancel culture for the empire to help further “American interests”.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Malachie520
  January 4th, 2023
  

  Sorry, @apnea, but you’re confused. Sure, the U.S. has committed atrocities. The most out of any country since WWII though? Maybe we’re forgetting about Pol Pot or Mao Zea-Dong, two individuals that could give the entire U.S. a run for its money. Yes, a quarter million Iraqis died during the U.S. occupation of that country…but not by American hands. Ironically (and surprising to no one except the U.S. Dept of Defense and the State Dept) it was American freedom that cost these Iraqis their lives. Tribal people need brutal dictators to keep their zealotry at bay. Saddam likely killed more of his own people than the U.S. occupation did. We could’ve gone the Russian route and just bombed everything instead of having to go house-to-house to root out insurgency. Sure would have been a lot easier. But indiscriminate bombing is a war crime…and Russia is very outstanding at committing war crimes as we will see when they are finally driven out of a country not theirs. Our problem is hubris. We’re getting better at not committing atrocities. Don’t feel bad for the Russian oligarchs. They will never feel bad for you. A thousand years of culture sounds like a lot. Americans have short memories and we don’t care how historical propaganda has conditioned a population to believe in a past-”greatness”. Russia was only great because they got what they wanted: to be feared. When China invades Taiwan, it’ll be because Russia bungled everything possible in its invasion of a sovereign country that China will believe THEIR invasion will go a lot better because they have better everything. An unfortunate fact that became glaringly obvious during 2020 is that it isn’t that America doesn’t care for human beings. We just care about our individual selves more even when we shouldn’t. Get us all agreeing on something and we can commandeer whole countries in a month. Lose our interest and we will spend 20 years in a country and then give it back to those we took it from in the first place and call it a day. It’s sad.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Webby1948
  January 4th, 2023
  

  

  Thanks for the upload.
  ?Malachie520: Apnea’s right.You’re citing admittedly terrible figures of deaths caused by dictators in their own countries. No one wants to justify that. He was talking about foreign interventions, ie invasions of foreign countries by powers thousands of miles away.That puts America and NATO top of the league.

  Nice company you’ve got here.Seezer’s grasping the opportunity to spread more hate around I see. And blaming it on others as usual.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Webby1948
  January 4th, 2023
  

  Hadn’t realized how old this book is.At the time of its writing lobotomy was considered the height of medical treatment in psychiatry. Today there are far more widespread and subtle methods of mass manipulation.
  Still, it may be an interesting book.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 4th, 2023
  

  Putin prop bots activated: “Exterminate! Exterminate Ukrainian children!” The standard humanity on display there. Spreading…love?

  “No one wants to justify that” - “Holodomor? Genocides? What genocides? What Russian imperialism?”

  “Today there are far more widespread & subtle methods of mass manipulation” - Precisely! Like you & a multitude of clowns volunteering as a Bot Army. Yet another priceless own goal.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 4th, 2023
  

  “Hadn’t realized how old this book is.” - Almost as old as your useful id!ot Russian propaganda efforts, Wobbly1933.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Malachie520
  January 4th, 2023
  

  @Webbly1948 Wait…NATO actually INVADED another country?! Finally our seventy-year-investment has paid off! Excited as I am, though, I’m curious as to where you believe NATO invaded. Probably shouldn’t ask–gift horse and everything–but while we’re inspecting its mouth, considering the U.S. hasn’t invaded anybody for twenty years, I’m curious when next that happened, too. I don’t discount atrocities committed in the past; I was educated (and continued to self-educate) before the current ‘only unpatriotic people believe [the U.S.] did bad things’. Sure, we killed the entire population of a country (as reported by U.S. newspapers years before the Vietnam ‘police action’ actually ended with a surprising number of living Vietcong seeing us off) but we’ve been out of the depopulation game for quite a while. Short memories, remember. Everyone always has to bring up old s**t. Iraq would have been the gold-standard for invasions, civilian casualties being the lowest that anyone could have possibly dreamed when we reached Baghdad…if not for the disagreement between Allah and his Islamic followers that came after. Saw it in Afghanistan as well. Russia’s failure in Ukraine will be the poster-child for how NOT to invade a country for a hundred years. Hopefully The Hague makes examples out of them to hopefully deter future imbeciles from acting on delusions of grandeur with an eye toward a fictitious past.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Malachie520
  January 4th, 2023
  

  And yes, Wobbly1933, I find caesar963 great company!

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 4th, 2023
  

  You won’t be able to reason with this Putin prop bot, Malachie. Reason, logic & fact are not prerequisites for “qualifying” as a mindless bot.
  I explained to him that Putin’s invasion & terror policies against neighbouring countries only have the obvious counterproductive result of forcing them into NATO for a measure of security.

  However, he denies or persistently distracts from Russia’s invasions, terror, atrocities, human rights violations & genocide. (For instance, don’t try to tell him that Russia invaded Afghanistan - that’s not in his bot script, and he’s liable to malfunction.)

  This hysterically hateful eejit is still fighting the Cold War in his narrow head. When his “side” murders children, he can only cheerlead them further.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Bytbiter
  January 5th, 2023
  

  @apnea

  Yes, but the US kills people to make them free!

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  dave5050j
  January 6th, 2023
  

  @Malachie520 using your impeccable logic then Usama was a “gold standard” terrorist! Am always amazed when people diminish the deaths of other human beings as if their lives didn’t matter. Whether it is direct military intervention or support of dictatorships what is the difference if the tools of slaughter are coming from the west?

  What I find hypocritical is that most of the despots in the middle east rose to power with the assistance of western powers BUT when they stopped obeying their masters they became enemies. Saddam and Gadhafi come to mind. The Gulf dictatorships are OK as long as they continue to provide cheap energy. Freedom of speech and democracy only become a concern when foreign interests are relegated.

  Many of the citizens from economic and military disadvantaged nations have never had the opportunity to chart their own paths after gaining independence! There is also no such thing a “humanitarian” or “minimalistic” war because many innocent people die. Whether one is sitting in a air conditioned room with advisors and carrying out a “surgical strike” using robots OR one straps on a bomb and walks into a crowd the outcome is the same. We need to ask ourselves why we feel the need to continue antagonizing peoples in foreign countries. We should have NEVER gone into Iraq to begin with and the fact that those who lied and led the country into an unnecessary and unpopular war were never held accountable has led us to where we are today! We who “lead” the world established that precedent.

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  caesar963
  January 6th, 2023
  

  “always amazed when people diminish the deaths of other human beings as if their lives didn’t matter. Whether it is direct military intervention or support of dictatorships” - from dave, who supports human rights abusing dictator, Putin, who has brutally invaded Ukraine.
  Thereby explicitly diminishing the deaths of other human beings as if their lives didn’t matter.
  Supports Putin & his broken bots “because its impossible to argue with the truth.”

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  Jaymes420
  February 6th, 2023
  

  well said Webby1948,

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo
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  AdmiralJacksonWolfe
  February 22nd, 2023
  

  Yep, these comments seem about right. Books like these typically bring the nuts out of the woodwork. But hey, they’ll just say I’m the nutter. xD

  The Rape of the Mind; the Psychology of thought control, menticide, and brainwashing - Joost Meerloo

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