The Economics of Inequality - Thomas Piketty, Arthur Goldhammer

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  P1pp5
  November 10th, 2021
  

  

  Thank you 👍🏻

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  Maxcool
  November 10th, 2021
  

  Smells like commie propaganda. Is it?

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  Webby1948
  November 10th, 2021
  

  

  Yeah. A call for compassion, care, equality of opportunity, making the rich pay tax.
  Sure smells like commie prop to me.
  Mebbe’s a bit on the Christian side as well.

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  erouting
  November 10th, 2021
  

  @Maxcool not exactly.

  Marx got the problem right: that eventually if the rich take more and more everyone will have less and less until they’re in a modern form of debt peonage. That’s happening in the US and is factually verifiable, which this book speaks to.

  But Marx got the solution wrong: communism. Actual communism, not what Americans call communism, not higher taxes or social programs or collective bargaining or more reinvestment, but the communism that involves no one owning anything, even their own bodies.

  People are forever thinking that Marx being wrong about the solution must mean he was wrong about the problem. He wasn’t. We can prove the problem, at least in modern America. I’m careful to say America now, Caesar isn’t from America and pointed out that they do not have this problem and he’s right, they have social programs and high levels of reinvestment which are often called communism in America. Even though Caesar is from one of the more capitalistic places in Europe.

  You can claim that the solutions proposed in this book are communism if you like, but the facts discussed in it are just that: facts. If you don’t like facts you might be able to suggest they have a different meaning or cause, but claiming those facts are propoganda, without evidence, is a very communist thing to do.

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  tenbenson
  November 10th, 2021
  

  @erouting

  There is ZERO chance Maxcool is going to read what you wrote. Or to understand it if he did.

  Or, in the virtually null chance of understanding it, of arguing with you in good faith.

  Just another troll, armed with a couple of buzzwords and a child’s understanding of the world. But unlike a child, he will never learn.

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  erouting
  November 10th, 2021
  

  @tenbenson, a pity. Because not only does that mean he won’t learn anything, it also means I won’t learn anything if he raised any cogent counter argument to my points. Truly regrettable.

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  Anna_batista
  November 11th, 2021
  

  @erouting I’ve been thinking about this for years now (I’m almost 35). That the solution given by Marx is the only thing demonized. Never the reasons why he tought that. People say “Socialism and Communism” are bad. Okay, but what about the problem he pointed out? Was he wrong? There’s never any debate about the corrosion that capitalism is causing to our societies at large (Mine especially, I’m from Latin America). And it’s always this vicious circle of trying to have an argument and having always the same answer “Socialism is bad”. It’s hard to have any decent conversation about the “evident” failures of capitalism without being branded as a Communist, even when that’s not the case. Those two things are completely separate. It’s like telling a person, since you voted for Trump you are a racist. This logic don’t hold water.
  Let’s just give a moment to think, with open-minds, how the actual system is indeed leading us to a path of no return and how can we fix it with nes solutions instead of only demonizing and labeling people as Communists and Socialists without thinking first.

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  caesar963
  November 11th, 2021
  

  The most important consideration in reforming & monitoring market systems is the avoidance of the toxic ideologies which were demonstrated to repeatedly fail during the 20th century. Every system will inevitably have flaws, but the avoidance of the most catastrophic “isms” of history is key.

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  Anna_batista
  November 11th, 2021
  

  @caesar963 Ideology is the key. You get attached to a “ism” as you say and stop seeing the failures in it. Those should be the hard earned lessons, but they are always forgotten until the next crisis arrives.

  The Economics of Inequality - Thomas Piketty, Arthur Goldhammer
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  dave5050j
  November 11th, 2021
  

  Thanks for the book! Great comments as well.

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  tenbenson
  November 12th, 2021
  

  @dave5050j

  I know! It makes a change doesn’t it!

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  trax0r
  January 1st, 2022
  

  Marx hated ideology with a passion. Any ideology. He would of been disgusted by what people claimed to be doing in his name. People who called them self Marxist. He literally said near his death that he wasnt a Marxist (as far as what people think of as marxism). He also wasnt a communist, nor did he think peoples bodies werent there own. He liked the ancient idea of communism, not what people talk about in modern times. But he was never advocating for any sort of ideology, he hated them. He was wrong obviously about thinking the inevitable end result would be communism. So what. He isnt psychic. What does that have anything to do with any of the rest of his brilliant works, which have withstood the tell of time. So people were already abusing his name before he was dead. The manifesto was literally a spec writing job, to make money, that he whipped out in like a week or something with Engels. It didnt really represent him at all. And people change, do you think the same way know that you did in college, as a teen, a kid? No. To think what people do under the name of communism or socialism or marxism as having do with what Marx thought or believed, is just stupidity.

  The Economics of Inequality - Thomas Piketty, Arthur Goldhammer

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