Real Americans: National Identity, Violence, and the Constitution - Jared Goldstein
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On January 6, 2021, white supremacists, Christian nationalists, and other supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The insurrection was widely denounced as an attack on the Constitution, and the subsequent impeachment trial was framed as a defense of constitutional government. What received little attention is that the January 6 insurrectionists themselves justified the violence they perpetrated as a defense of the Constitution; after battling the Capitol police and breaking doors and windows, the mob marched inside, chanting “Defend your liberty, defend the Constitution.”
In Real Americans: National Identity, Violence, and the Constitution Jared A. Goldstein boldly challenges the conventional wisdom that a shared devotion to the Constitution is the essence of what it means to be American. In his careful analysis of US history, Goldstein demonstrates the well-established pattern of movements devoted to defending the power of dominant racial, ethnic, and religious groups that deploy the rhetoric of constitutional devotion to express their national visions and justify their violence. Goldstein describes this as constitutional nationalism, an ideology that defines being an American as standing with, and by, the Constitution. This history includes the Ku Klux Klan’s self-declared mission to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” which served to justify its campaign of violence in the 1860s and 1870s to prevent Black people from exercising the right to vote; Protestant Americans who felt threatened by the growing population of Catholics and Jews and organized mass movements to defend their status and power by declaring that the Constitution was made for a Protestant nation; native-born Americans who resisted the rising population of immigrants and who mobilized to exclude the newcomers and their alien ideas; corporate leaders arguing that regulation is unconstitutional and un-American; and Timothy McVeigh, who believed he was defending the Constitution by killing 168 people with a truck bomb.
Real Americans: National Identity, Violence, and the Constitution reveals how the Constitution as the central embodiment and common ground of American identity has long been used to promote conflicting versions of American identity and to justify hatred, violence, and exclusion.
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This post has 35 comments with rating of 3/5
January 4th, 2022
Thanks, looks interesting
January 4th, 2022
Nothing but Left Wing Propaganda!
January 4th, 2022
@wbear as opposed to all the right-wing propaganda on this site as well?
@jsynaapses Yes we get it, you’re an anti-semite.
January 4th, 2022
@jsynapses “gentiles”, dissident right”, “black neighbourhoods”, gentile progressives”. I know your language and it’s not fooling anyone.
Everything you say screams far-right white supremacist. I’ve fallen into your crowd before but managed to not get trapped. You see an enemy in everything, fear drives you.
January 5th, 2022
@jsynapses So what do you consider the truth. How would you do things? What are these mythologies you say the left have?
January 5th, 2022
@jsynapses did you get rejected from art school or something?
January 5th, 2022
jsynapses, how many windows can you lick in a day?
January 5th, 2022
I knew this would bring out the hate scum. Imagine if these mouth breathers had actually managed to pull of the coup.
January 5th, 2022
> Imagine if these mouth breathers had actually managed to pull of the coup
Imagine that. Actually, it’s a good question. Even better one: why no one is actually talking and speculating about it all the time in media? Namely, theoretically speaking, which horrors, exactly, were likely to happen, that might have been envisioned and implemented by those “insurrectionists”, should they win their “coup”? Perhaps this article may provide some ideas: Seven Hours in January Was Not Seven Days in May by Thomas Buckley * Jan 5, 2022 (American Thinker).
And this book too:
Coup d’État: A Practical Handbook, Revised Edition
by Edward N. Luttwak
hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737266
‘Coup d’État’ astonished readers when it first appeared in 1968 because it showed, step by step, how governments could be overthrown. Translated into 16 languages, it has inspired anti-coup precautions by regimes around the world. In addition to these detailed instructions, Edward Luttwak’s revised handbook offers an altogether new way of looking at political power — one that considers, for example, the vulnerability to coups of even the most stable democracies in the event of prolonged economic distress.
The world has changed dramatically in the past half century, but not the essence of the coup d’état. It still requires the secret recruitment of military officers who command the loyalty of units well placed to seize important headquarters and key hubs in the capital city. The support of the armed forces as a whole is needed only in the aftermath, to avoid countercoups. And mass support is largely irrelevant, although passive acceptance is essential. To ensure it, violence must be kept to a minimum. The ideal coup is swift and bloodless. Very violent coups rarely succeed, and if they trigger a bloody civil war they fail utterly.
Luttwak identifies conditions that make countries vulnerable to a coup, and he outlines the necessary stages of planning, from recruitment of co-conspirators to postcoup promises of progress and stability. But much more broadly, his investigation of coups — updated for the 21st century — uncovers important truths about the nature of political power.
January 5th, 2022
@almilam. So Buckley (some guy called Thomas, not William) points out how disorganised and inept the coup was, and concludes that it wasn’t a coup. By that criterion, Trump was never a president. Or a businessman.
Anyway, like “collusion”, “couping” is not a defined crime, it’s just a word that describes what was being attempted. If Garland pulled his thumb out he could have Trump up on 20 criminal charges. But like Comey in 2016, he’s too concerned with not seeming to be partisan that he lets Trump act with impunity.
Anyway, Luttwak described a traditional military coup, by a group not in power. What Trump was trying was a political coup to retain power, by making a pretext to cancel the election results.
As for what might have happened if Pence had not held the line, Trump world have declared martial law, there would have been huge demonstrations 10 times worse that BLM. MAGAs would have brandished weapons. Lots of blood in the streets. Putin raises a glass.
All Covid precautions go put the window and Covid deaths double and redouble. Economy crashes. International sanctions. Maybe Trump starts a war to distract. Or Rupert Murdoch sees this is actually bad for business and turns Fox against him. Anything can happen, all of it bad.
January 5th, 2022
@Gweilo actually makes sense when you think about it. The Trump campaign’s meeting with foreign countries to try dig up dirt and spread misinformation was decidedly not collusion, simply because they were deemed to inept to actually pull it off. “Cartoonish levels of incompetence” is the phrase used, I believe.
January 5th, 2022
“THIs Is jUst lEFt-wInG prOPaganDA!” Oh yes, for sure - criticizing people who hate democracy and who storm the elected house is left-wing lol
I like to think of it as the day one right-wing jackass managed to kill himself by accidentally tasering himself in the balls, provoking a heart attack. And he was one of the smartest trump supporters.
January 5th, 2022
Post-WWI Germany featured many coups, such as the infamous Munich Beer Hall Putsch. Merely because it was confused, chaotic & a failed coup d’état, does not mean that it was not a coup d’état. Extremists throw the die, and people die.
January 5th, 2022
“tasering himself in the balls” - isn’t that how Houdini died?
January 5th, 2022
does not mean that it was not an “attempted” coup d’état. My apologies.
January 5th, 2022
@Gweilo
You provided your version of what might happen *on the way to alleged coup victory* — but that was not what I asked.
> Luttwak described a traditional military coup, by a group not in power. What Trump was trying was a political coup to retain power, by making a pretext to cancel the election results
In a nutshell, it all boils down to whether or not the election results were (i) perfectly legitimate, or (ii) in some ways doctored or “fortified”, as some high-ranked participants quite eloquently described it themselves, just enough to push Biden over the finish line and deny Trump the presidency.
So, the real Trump’s intention was (i) to cancel the election results — or (ii) to establish what exactly those results were, under the circumstances, in light of the apparent too numerous and too serious “fortifications”, a.k.a. “election fraud”?
> As for what might have happened if Pence had not held the line, Trump world have declared martial law
I seriously doubt it, but that’s besides the point.
Interesting choice of words: “Pence held the line”.
I would put it differently: “Pence quickly and eagerly jumped at first opportunity to cancel the election related proceedings in the Senate, conveniently provided by the alleged January 6 insurrection or coup”.
Jumped a bit too quickly and eagerly, in my estimation.
Incidentally, certain highly experienced politicians may provide some important background for eventualities of that nature (which, as if by magic, tend to happen precisely when and where they needed most):
“If anything happens in politics, you can bet is was planned that way” —FDR
Curious inquisitive minds, following the proverbial “Qui bono?” path, will eventually get there.
“While we cannot see into the media’s and other Democrats’ hearts and minds, their behavior since January 6 makes it seem as if — whether January 6 reflected entrapment or a riot born of genuine citizen frustration — they viewed the events on that day as their Reichstag fire — that is, a theatrical-appearing event that they could use to destroy their political opposition, just as the Nazis used the Reichstag fire (which many believe the Nazis set) to destroy their communist opponents.” —Andrea Widburg (Jan 3, 2022 * American Thinker)
January 5th, 2022
Came for the Comments and was not disappointed. F all this. Aliens are real. Our goverment dems and repubnazis both are billing disclosure as a threat to national security. The Tick Tac video is being used to scare us into thinking these are a threat to our air space. They are not a threat. Just google Dr Stephen Greer and ce5 protocols he explains how the aliens would have wiped us out in a second if they wanted us dead. They shut down our nukes to show they dont want us blowing ourselves up.
January 5th, 2022
Another killer non sequitur there.
What if nuke nullification is standard xeno-protocol preparatory to Independence Day-style fireworks?
January 5th, 2022
Those that support trump are immune to logic.
January 6th, 2022
@alnilam:”the real Trump’s intention was … to establish what exactly those results were, under the circumstances, in light of the apparent too numerous and too serious “fortifications”, a.k.a. “election fraud”?”
Of course not. He had three months, with the entire power of the DoJ under Barr, to investigate. Barr did investigate, told him it was all BS, then quit, because Trump wanted him to manufacture fraud or a pretext to cancel the election. Like Pence, he had been Trump’s lapdog, but wasn’t gong to basically commit treason for him, and have to answer for it.
As did Homeland Security.
https://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-says-2020-election-004658626.html
Since them Trump’s goons have had a year to provide evidence, still nothing that even the many judges he appointed can make sense of. And a bunch of absurd “audits” by hard core Trumpies that found that Biden had actually got a few more votes than first counted.
The only fraud ever found was a few dummies who voted twice or used relatives’ ID; all Republicans.
“Pence quickly and eagerly jumped at first opportunity to cancel the election related proceedings” — He did the opposite: After escaping a mob set on murdering him, he continued the “election related proceedings” and formalised the results.
And you really need to make up your mind if it was patriots or a false flag on Jan 6. Trumpies like to switch from one to the other depending on convenience at dodging blame.
January 6th, 2022
Goldstein… Sounds like he’s part of the ‘get my group kicked out of the country’ speedrun community. I suppose it’s good to have goals.
January 6th, 2022
@entonbray I love it when hate scum are so resolutely basic.
January 6th, 2022
@Gweilo
> And you really need to make up your mind if it was patriots or a false flag on Jan 6
Interesting, apparently something gave you the idea that my personal opinion on the matter is fluctuating between the above two variants.
> Trumpies like to switch from one to the other depending on convenience at dodging blame
(i) Re: “Trumpies” — I choose not to use any derogatory political terms-expressions (like trumpies, trumptards, rightards, leftards etc), intended by design to diminish political opponents, present them in a negative light, paint grotesquely, dehumanize, and otherwise muddy the water and obscure the picture. It means I will not accept such terms-expressions from commenting counterparts either. Feel free to keep using whatever derogatory political terms-expressions you like, just don’t expect my interest and participation in such exchanges.
(ii) Re: “Trumpies like to switch from one to the other depending on convenience at dodging blame” — last time I checked, it was the political Left, using moral relativism (*) as their ultimate weapon, on the ancient Romans scale ESSE NON VIDERI habitually sticking to the latter (using pretense to create perception), and hardly ever bothering with the former (essence, substance, truth).
(*) viewing political friends and foes and events through opposite ends of binoculars arbitrarily, and cranking up and down media megaphone volume respectively
January 7th, 2022
@alnilam “something gave you the idea that my personal opinion on the matter is fluctuating between the above two variants.”
“Curious inquisitive minds, following the proverbial “Qui bono?” path, will eventually get there.” is suggesting a false flag.
“it all boils down to whether or not the election results were (i) perfectly legitimate, or (ii) in some ways doctored or “fortified”,” — implying that actions to rectify this were justified.
Playing both sides, at best, ambiguous.
“Re: “Trumpies” — I choose not to use any derogatory”
– This simply indicates people that support Trump.
I am often tempted to use more derogatory terms, but leave it at the factual. As calling someone who publicly supports Hitler a Nazi isn’t derogatory. It’s the correct word.
“(using pretense to create perception), and hardly ever bothering with the former (essence, substance, truth).”
Asserting that everyone on “the Left” is a liar, is most assuredly a “derogatory political term”, no matter how verbose you are.
Anyway, way off topic.
January 7th, 2022
Interesting how the ones who cry for justice would burn the very document that offers justice. After all, The Declaration of Independence was written by a bunch of dead white men, why would natural rights have any importance in our day? We are sooo much more enlightened then they ever were.
I believe the terminology C.S. Lewis used was chronological snobbery.
January 7th, 2022
@Jiminy yeah, all those MAGAs looking for justice, to “stop the steal”, certainly don’t believe in democracy, they want a return to monarchy. George III though looks pretty good compared to Donald I. And one can only shudder at Donald II, or Ivanka I.
January 7th, 2022
George 3 would’ve been tweeting under the heavy influence of porphyria. That includes blue wee-wee, for the folks in the cheap seats.
January 9th, 2022
If a majority of the right really wanted a coup there would be a civil war by sundown, and there would be nothing that the government could really do about it.
People need to tone down the hyperbolic rhetoric, before we talk ourselves right into a blood bath.
January 10th, 2022
@ceb1980 A coup is not a popular uprising, or a civil war. It’s a sudden, illegal and / or violent act by a faction with power to seize control of the government.
And the “right”, while they like to cosplay in camo, while be quickly dead if they raised arms against the real military. They could never win by force, but they could turn the US into a Third World power. Like Russia after the fall of the USSR. There are enough Republicans who would be happy to follow Littlefinger’s strategy, “Chaos is a ladder”, no matter how many died.
January 12th, 2022
Even liberal reporter Michael Tracey has laughed at all the hyperbole his colleagues have attached to this event.
Liberal Reporter: ‘Please Shut The Hell Up About January 6′
by Matt Vespa * Jan 12, 2022
townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/01/12/liberal-reporter-please-shut-the-hell-up-about-january-6-n2601539
Please Shut The Hell Up About January 6
by Michael Tracey * Jan 7, 2022
mtracey.substack.com/p/please-shut-the-hell-up-about-january
January 16th, 2022
@alnilam: “Even liberal reporter Michael Tracey”.
This guy is about as representative of “liberals” as Candace Owens is of American blacks. 99% of the mentions of him are like the ones you gave, on far right sites citing him as a “liberal reporter” who has seen the light. On most issues, he’s indistinguishable from a right wing troll.
February 5th, 2022
I love how Gweilo who doesn’t live in America likes to think that the Dems would stand a chance in a civil war. 87% of the military is Republicans. Libs are such incels that I could take out 100 easy. Goebble’s protege Gweilo would be eliminated first.
February 9th, 2022
@Gweilo
Further to previous (re: Pence)
What’s the Deal With Mike Pence?
by Andrew W. Coy * Feb 9, 2022
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/02/whats_the_deal_with_mike_pence.html
February 20th, 2022
Trying to talk sense to trumpies is a pretty futile undertaking.
Flat earthers under a different name and with their own “news” stations.
February 20th, 2022
Flat Trumpers ;.)
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