Pirates and Emperors, Old and New: International Terrorism in the Real World - Noam Chomsky
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Colonialism
Imperialism
Israel
Libya
Middle East
Occupation
Palestine
Terrorism
Zionism
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Pirates and Emperors is a brilliant exploration of the role of the United States in the Middle East that exposes how the media manipulates public opinion about what constitutes “terrorism”. Chomsky masterfully argues that appreciating the differences between state terror and nongovernmental terror is crucial to stopping terrorism and understanding why atrocities like the bombing of the World Trade Center and the killing of the Charlie Hebdo journalists happen.
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This post has 30 comments with rating of 5/5
February 21st, 2023
It’s all the fault of the West!
February 21st, 2023
you got it in one!
February 21st, 2023
The west or the other W word?
February 21st, 2023
Thank you for sharing
February 21st, 2023
Grow the f up. Ignorance isn’t patriotism.
Those who deny history are destined to repeat it.
Thank you for the upload, FreePalestine!
February 22nd, 2023
In my teens I conceived a great admiration for Chomsky, saw him speak several times over the yrs. I thought that he, at least, was telling us the truth. Gradually, it became striking how the very worst & most genocidal ideologies & brutal, despotic regimes always seemed to coincidentally escape his notice, & certainly did not warrant his outraged critique.
This was remarkable & thoroughly disenchanting, but a necessary disabuse withal. In my old game of chance, we might observe something along the lines of “Qui tacet consentire videtur,” but complicity here often takes the form of explicitly supporting & falsely vindicating such appalling regimes.
Those who deny the true history and present of these genocidal ideologies & barbaric regimes - who incessantly engage in diversionary “Whataboutism?” - actually fervently desire to perpetuate them.
February 22nd, 2023
Thank you so much
February 22nd, 2023
<3
February 22nd, 2023
“In my teens I conceived a great admiration for Chomsky, saw him speak several times over the yrs”….
… course you did lol
Everyone on the internet is a dog, eh.
Troll963 has contributed zero content to this site and the community, yet whiles away the hours posting on others contributions, all the while ignoring Zionism, letting Putin, and Corbyn, live rent free in his head and grasping very little about genuine anti-colonial struggle….I bet he’s one of these Belfast Unionist types that spray-paints murals of Israeli flags onto random masked paramilitaries and cosplays and cross-border raids into the Irish Republic. lol Worrying too.
Bored and lonely, I’d say sums it up.
February 23rd, 2023
If yer bored & lonely, get a hobby! (Ideally, one not associated with genocidal ideology.) At least don’t contribute hatred.
You must truly be a frozen ideologue if you cannot realise that people’s views change over time, with new information & experience. Prior to university, I blithely described myself as a socialist. Then bracing reality intruded. It’s a necessary maturing process, which some contrive to avoid.
On Chomsky specifically, I was introduced to his work in a 1992 docu film, & was quite impressed as I said, then read MC & others; even became conversant with the linguistics theory as part of one subsequent degree (innate, universal grammar vs a more tabula rasa, environmental, behaviourist model of language acquisition), & later saw him speak at the RDS in 2006 (I’m in Amnesty, so we had early tickets provided) & events organised by my university.
On your record here, I’ll hazard a guess that you have not read - & certainly do not understand - such matter. On another upload last wk (”This Is Only the Beginning: Making of New Left, fr Anti-Austerity to Fall of Corbyn” by Michael Chessum), you confidently stated that a bk which clearly concerned the British Labour Party & Corbyn’s leadership was “a book on anarchism ffs lol” - & when challenged by tenbenson & myself, you predictably did a vanishing act.
You clearly don’t understand the issues, area or the political concepts involved.
Like the other ignorant, extremist eejits you go with hateful prejudice & weaponised bigotry, all the while slavishly power-worshipping Putin’s campaigns of murder & imperialism, and hating the Jeeewz! - blaming them for everything, up to & including your abject failure as a human being.
More of your weaponised ignorance & hatred: the proper constitutional name of my country (as Béarla) is Ireland. And no, Kerry & Dublin are not in “Belfast” - which you probably couldn’t find on a map, in any event. And no, we don’t take lectures on imperialism from imperialists & toxic ideologues like yourself.
February 23rd, 2023
Your inveterate racism is one thing, but this “letting Putin live rent free” reflects a truly repellent support for the widespread murder & rape of civilians, and your obsequious worship of brute, imperialistic power. Shame on you.
February 23rd, 2023
You’ve written TWO WHOLE PARAGRAPHS on what is a cross-post, designated for another book which the browser cached incorrectly? Really? Lol
That’s the equivalent of an Israeli grammar Nazi-pedant arguing the grammatical toss in favour of the moral wrongs of Zionist’ colonialism and apartheid: when struggling, you deflect as you did then, and do always. You ignore the substance and dredge up Putin, who does indeed live rent free in your head.
Just like you don’t NEED to be black to understand the wrongs of British/American/colonialism, or NEED to be transgender to understand thatanti-trans rhetoric and policy is oppression, or NEED to be female to appreciate that the modern capitalist system co-opts female labour to serve capitalist demands, you also don’t NEED to be Irish to understand that Irish Unionists are colonialist: ‘God’s Peoples: Covenant and Land in South Africa, Israel, and Ulster’, Akenson, Donald H.
Go read, go learn, go reflect and go talk to Putin (the one in your head that doesn’t pay rent), my dearest ZionstTroll963
February 23rd, 2023
…more incoherent dreck. No bullshyte excuses, tankie. NONE of the comments on the Corbyn bk contained anything like your mindlessly confident ass-ertion that the bk was about “anarchism ffs lol.” It was entirely your stupid error. Then you disappeared. Well done. Now own it. You’re not only a total id!ot, but an ideologically hateful one.
And you’re straight into your masturbatory hatred of Jeeewz! again. Predictable as nat socialist clockwork.
“u deflect as u did then, & do always” - Let’s see now, I was talking about Chomsky & the defence of genocidal ideologies & criminal regimes (you’re unable to grasp this, but bk’s title refs “Pirates & Emperors: International Terrorism in Real World!”) - then, in order to divert & deflect from this you brought up anything that came into your unusually small head, incl: Jeeewz!; Putin; Corbyn; Belfast; Unionism; murals; Israeli flags (more Jeeewz!); random masked paramilitaries; cosplays; dogs; cross-border raids into the “Irish Republic” - just as you always do, eh? Essentially deflecting via your massive word dump, in order to “ignore the substance.”
Do try to keep up, tankie!
And you really imagine it was I who “dredged up Putin?” Are you irremediably stupid, FreeP? It was you who invoked your onanistic idol, as you always do - “Putin live rent free.” That’s true power worship for you, you unknowingly project your obsession onto all around you.
But you’re (inadvertently) right in that he is like something that is “dredged up.”
Then we have you desperately straining for analogies, like the constipated troll that you are, in order to arrive at this masterpiece of risibly brainless shyte: “don’t NEED be Irish to understand that Irish Unionists are colonialist” - what in the blue blazes are you struggling to say here? Who the hell are “Irish Unionists?” Have you ever read a book (rather than merely googling a convenient title) - or even watched the news? To be that ignorant of the politics, you really must be British. Are you? Because that would be utterly perfect.
He’s accusing Irish people of colonialism - where did we colonise, you dull bollox? Were we also “anarchist” colonists? Yet again, you’ve Dunning–Krugered the hole off yourself, heinrich.
I was only half-joking, but you really wouldn’t understand a map. You truly are a toxic tankie; wtf are you doing here?
February 23rd, 2023
Great upload!
Where to Start with Noam Chomsky?
It’s the responsibility of intellectuals - like Chomsky - to seek truth, to undermine State lies, and to resist the crimes and abuses of the State. Perhaps the most powerful aspect of his approach is that as Chomsky poses questions of personal responsibility the reader must ruminate on their own responsibility within their society.
What can one say about him?
He really nails the reality of a situation more often than not. From unconscious media bias to neoliberal distortions of Adam Smith, Chomsky sees complex relationships and patterns a lot more clearly than most, and articulates those insights in strikingly precise ways.
He is able to keep a tremendous amount of precise information in his head. Whenever he speaks or is questioned, one thing that becomes very clear is that he retains nearly all of the actual facts required to support what he is saying. It’s an enviable trait, and is reflected in his writing as well.
His overarching position - and agendas - are fundamentally correct. Chomsky has identified and understands quite deeply many complex themes and relationships cascading throughout history and society. When we allow him time to connect all the dots, the results are pretty breathtaking.
In terms of credibility, I think that speaks to the accuracy of his suppositions and the facts he uses to support those suppositions. And here it is hard to poke holes in most of Chomsky’s arguments. Are his arguments difficult to understand? Not really, it’s just that they don’t get much airtime, and are so loudly and vehemently countered by neoliberal propaganda that they sometimes seem radical.
Of course all of this will not be appealing for a lot of people who harbor certain agendas and biases when it comes to international politics.
Two other great books by him are:
Year 501: The Conquest Continues
On Western Terrorism - New Edition: From Hiroshima to Drone Warfare
It would be great if anyone can upload them.
February 23rd, 2023
You’re exhausting, thick as mince, and poorly read. But do go on….
‘The Irish Unionist Alliance (IUA), also known as the Irish Unionist Party, Irish Unionists or simply the Unionists, was a unionist political party founded in Ireland in 1891 from a merger of the Irish Conservative Party and the Irish Loyal and Patriotic Union to oppose plans for home rule for Ireland…..’
February 23rd, 2023
You utter clown! So you wish it to be understood that when you clearly said “don’t NEED to be Irish to understand that Irish Unionists ‘ARE’ colonialist” - what you actually intended was a minority party that existed for a few decades - over a century ago? That pesky present tense did for you, heinrich.
Brilliant. You had to furiously google an obscure & totally irrelevant reference - which only serves to undermine your ass-ertion still further.
That must be the worst attempt at a clown retcon in entertainment history.
I ought to report you to an IUA representative. Or, failing that, get the Holy Roman Emperor on the phone. The Hapsburgs are still on the throne, aren’t they, tankie?
You’re still as thick as pig shyte, heinrich - if not more so. And so well read too.
Oh yeah, where did your “Irish colonists” get too? Y’know, the other “anarchist” lads? You’ve just got to be British…
February 23rd, 2023
The Unionists, and their ideology, live on, sadly, in Ireland if not as oveertly as they once did until VERY recently: they didn’t have Pope Heckling Paisley as the leader of the DUP (that’s right, the Democratic “Unionist” Party) for nothing.
Unionists, Loyalists, Reactionary Irish collaborates with imperialism, call them what you will….there’s a reason they fly Israeli flags. And we all know what that is ;)
February 23rd, 2023
“The Unionists” - but the Irish unionists you said, remember?
“if not as oveertly (sic) as they once did” - Do you know what you’re talking about, heinrich? Where are you sourcing this stuff?
“DUP (that’s right, the Democratic “Unionist” Party)” - That’s right? Meaning? That you’ve googled the name of a British political party? Well done.
However, you said “Irish unionists” who ARE “colonialist” (& very likely “anarchist” - which makes about as much sense).
“Irish collaborates (?) with imperialism” - Where in Ireland does this happen? On any point of the compass? Enthrall us with your acumen here.
“Irish imperialists…fly Israeli flags” - This is so desperately confused it’s like you’ve suffered serious head trauma. There are no “Irish imperialists,” whether in a position to fly “Israeli flags” or not, as the case may be.
“And we all know what that is ;)” - I am absolutely certain you have no idea why anything “is” - given your complete ignorance of the politics, constitution & history which you presume to speak on. Consequently, you likely know as little about everything else as you do about Ireland. That’s Dunning-Kruger for you. Do you even know where you live?
I’ve seriously never seen someone talk themselves so quickly into total disaster like you did on this page. Ironic kudos!
February 23rd, 2023
Moving the goal posts against with regards to terms, I see? Same same eh….nothing changes with ZioBot963.
New to you it might be but sadly the British excelled at getting some of the locals to collaborate with their Imperialist agenda - Africa, South America, India, M.E….and yes, Ireland too.
That Ireland itself had, historically speaking, no time / chance / opportunity to become an imperial empire seeking power doesn’t change the fact that there were and still are collaborators within Irish society who were all to willing to assist the British. Had they not been decimated by the British then they’d have jumped in to bed with the English like the Scotts did. Only a matter of time. Where interest intersect, this will always be the case.
What would be illuminating however would be to understand why you espouse anti-imperialist rhetoric but yet ignore the Israeli flag draped around you neck. The cognitive dissonance must be excruciating – must be what keeps you up posting all night, to be fair…..
February 24th, 2023
Oh dear… “Moving the goal posts?”
You genuinely didn’t know? New to you it might be, but sadly the British pop in NI is a “transplanted” pop. The actual native Irish there were largely expropriated & dispossessed, murdered, expelled or forced to emigrate.
This occurred during several plantations, Tudor, Cromwellian & subsequent. Being English speakers, they anglicised the nomenclature (English settlers stuck “London” in front of Derry, for inst). You even admitted this when you identified them as “colonists” - but then fatuously labelled them as being Irish.
The Irish weren’t in a position to collaborate, being dead or fled. More clearances occurred in the South when Cromwell stole massive tracts of Irish land & gave it to supporters. Many Irish people were forced into the West, & enormous amounts of the population had already been killed off. However, the South remained substantially Irish, with the population gradually recovering.
Divisions were further entrenched by the Penal Laws. The British population did not integrate.
It was then that the Irish were hit by the Great Famine, whereas some in the British population in the 6 counties engage in denialism (much like yourself) by saying that “the Famine didn’t happen.”
Consequently, we’re not imperialists, & Ireland has never colonised another people. These things have always been slightly unpopular amongst my people, but beloved of characters like you.
Even look at your British unionist names: Poots, Dodds, Grosvenor, Chichester-Clark, Stratton Mills, Rafton Pounder(?), Foster, Paisley, Robinson, Trimble, Wilson, Lewis, Taylor, Bradley, Hermon, etc. They always trace their lineage back to the home country, as they call it.
“there were & still are collaborators within Irish society who were all to (sic) willing to assist British” - Again, who & where were these collaborators? Sources? You must be British to be so appalling on the history…
And here you allege the Irish “collaborated” & were “to (sic) willing to assist British;” there you say that the Irish were “decimated,” & had they not been, they would’ve collaborated “like the Scotts (sic) did” - so which is it?
You might (long shot) be referring here to the Act of Union w Scotland of 1707. However, there was a subsequent Act of Union w Ireland - on less favourable terms than the Scots achieved. Again, this was English peop in Ireland negotiating with English peop in London, with the Irish wholly disenfranchised.
As regards all the phantom Irish collaborators: there was a rebellion, a rising, or a revolt in virtually every generation. Must’ve been all the collaborators.
“why do you espouse anti-imperialist rhetoric” - & still have a bloody Russian flag “draped around you (sic) neck?” - And all the other imperialist regimes & genocidal ideologies you shill for?
“cognitive dissonance” & Dunning-Kruger - you’re a rash of pathologies!
February 24th, 2023
STILL refusing to explain why you give Zionist Israeli exceptionalism a free pass, I see?
February 24th, 2023
And your racist ass-ertions stand in need of explanation, your dementedly ignorant accusations of “Irish imperialism!” - your sleazy “blame the victim” strategy; why you “think” Labour Party are “anarchists!” - your granting of a free pass to Russian imperialist exceptionalism; your slavish support of genocidal ideologies & despotic regimes; your Jew hatred, etc.
February 24th, 2023
…if you can explain all of those, to a reasonably satisfying degree, I will then patiently explain the history of the Israel-Palestine situation to you. That’s more than fair (although your loony errors are multiplying daily, so you’re gonna have to keep explaining yourself!).
February 24th, 2023
err no, you’re pro zionist stance came loooong before I arrived on here. Why dont you pony up your ‘anti-colonialist defence of Zionism’ for us all ;)
February 24th, 2023
Errr, but your racism, Jew hatred, genocide denial, power & dictator worship are clearly long established & tumescently entrenched. So, there exists a concomitant onus on your bigoted anus. Do you even have an anti-colonial defence of Russian imperialism (Soviet or Putin era)? Because your bloated posturing implies that you do.
February 24th, 2023
Again, you’ve just asked more questions without explaining why you promote (colonialist, imperialist, settler) Zionism and yet apparently ‘know what it’s like to be the victim of British Imperialism’ and ‘fight against it’. Rather selective racism eh? It’s either both fine, or both wrong. Which is it?
February 24th, 2023
I’ve established the manifest parameters, of course. Quite obviously, you don’t truly oppose imperialism, but essentially embrace it. I’m prepared to explain the Israel-Palestine situation to you, to provide the necessary political & historical context which you lack (happy to!); how racists like yourself always view the “hated Jew” as uniquely evil, & what that bigotry & con theorising consists in - in addition to your racist genocide denialism (with the example of hx, we’re all too aware of where your Jew hatred leads); but you must confront your slavish support of imperialism (Russian & other insts) - the absurd, inherent contradictions entailed, why you repeatedly fail to understand these; your advocacy of genocidal ideology; & your additional racism in incoherently condemning “Irish imperialism!”
As you can see, these outstanding issues are truly egregious & demand explanation. If nothing else, as an explication of paranoid, delusional, pathological psychopathy! For inst, your unqualified support of the murder & rape of civilians.
February 24th, 2023
“your unqualified support of the murder & rape of civilians” lol #facepalm
Only at weekends mate, only at weekends….
February 25th, 2023
…says the rep from the militant “Putin strong like bull!” internet brigade. You don’t sincerely condemn it, so you support it. Every day of the wk & twice on a Sunday, me ol’ sanguinary mate.
October 21st, 2023
Thank you! :)
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