How the West Brought War to Ukraine: Understanding How U.S. and NATO Policies Led to Crisis, War, and the Risk of Nuclear Catastrophe - Benjamin Abelow
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“A brilliant, remarkably concise explanation of the danger that U.S and NATO military involvement in Ukraine has created. Needs to be read and pondered by every citizen capable of thinking rationally and responsibly about American and European security.” (Jack F. Matlock, Jr., U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union, 1987-1991)
According to the mainstream Western narrative, Vladimir Putin is an insatiable, Hitler-like expansionist who invaded Ukraine in an unprovoked land grab. That story is incorrect. In reality, the United States and NATO bear much of the responsibility for the Ukraine crisis. Through a series of misguided policies, Washington and its European allies placed Russia in an untenable situation for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In How the West Brought War to Ukraine, author Benjamin Abelow lays out the relevant history and explains how the West needlessly produced conflict, subjecting its own citizens and the rest of the world to the risk of nuclear war.
“An invaluable primer on the trends and events that produced the escalating warfare in Ukraine. Without understanding the history documented in this book, there will be no de-escalation of the US-Russian confrontation on Europe’s eastern borders.” (Chas Freeman, previously Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs)
“Abelow makes a clear and compelling case that the United States and its NATO allies—not Vladimir Putin—are the principal culprits.” (John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago)
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| Comment: | “A brilliant, remarkably concise explanation of the danger that U.S and NATO military involvement in Ukraine has created. Needs to be read and pondered by every citizen capable of thinking rationally and responsibly about American and European security.” (Jack F. Matlock, Jr., U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union, 1987-1991)
According to the mainstream Western narrative, Vladimir Putin is an insatiable, Hitler-like expansionist who invaded Ukraine in an unprovoked land grab. That story is incorrect. In reality, the United States and NATO bear much of the responsibility for the Ukraine crisis. Through a series of misguided policies, Washington and its European allies placed Russia in an untenable situation for which war seemed, to Mr. Putin and his military staff, the only workable solution. In How the West Brought War to Ukraine, author Benjamin Abelow lays out the relevant history and explains how the West needlessly produced conflict, subjecting its own citizens and the rest of the world to the risk of nuclear war. “An invaluable primer on the trends and events that produced the escalating warfare in Ukraine. Without understanding the history documented in this book, there will be no de-escalation of the US-Russian confrontation on Europe’s eastern borders.” (Chas Freeman, previously Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs) “Abelow makes a clear and compelling case that the United States and its NATO allies—not Vladimir Putin—are the principal culprits.” (John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago) |
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This post has 325 comments with rating of 3/5
December 26th, 2022
Hey man just because Victoria Nuland and the US government helped a rignt-wing paramilitary with swastika tattoos violently overthrow the democratically elected government in 2014 to install a non-elected anti-Russia far right president doesn’t mean they wanted anything to happen…even though it’s what the US has done in 12 different countries…
December 26th, 2022
Oh, look. A fascist Putin supporter.
December 26th, 2022
Khameleon: What are the chances eh?
December 26th, 2022
Great upload!
December 26th, 2022
Yeah. What are the chances these Ukrainian neo-nazis would put a Jewish man in control of Ukraine?
How stupid do you have to be to believe that would actually happen?
December 26th, 2022
You know it is a politics book for ‘tards because it has to explain absolutely everything in the title. Books for people who have never read any other books. America really is a cesspit of dumbassery isn’t it?
December 26th, 2022
Tankie nonsense.
December 26th, 2022
@Khameleon
And just where are all these Nazi’s now? lol
December 26th, 2022
Dickhead works for RT. That’s all you need to know.
December 26th, 2022
sovereign countries deciding who they wish to ally themself with is up to the people, not Putin. NATO didn’t force anyone to join them.
December 26th, 2022
“Vladimir Putin is an insatiable, Hitler-like expansionist who invaded Ukraine in an unprovoked land grab”
The only true statement in the whole books description.
December 26th, 2022
Comment thread reaching for great intellectual heights, as always.
December 27th, 2022
More than 100,000 fascist vatniks have died on Ukrainian soil in 2022… here’s to 100,000 more in 2023! They will fertilize Ukrainian fields, so they can be reborn as great Ukrainian beer! Слава Україні!
December 27th, 2022
UVRX - you are on point those friends of the czar that farmland.
December 27th, 2022
Written by and for extra chromosome conservatives!
December 27th, 2022
simple facts.
“Tankie”?
You do know, russia is as capitalist as it gets, dont you? No, u dont, yet you have the gall to point out “nonsense” somehow? Haha, you spew nonsense like cholera of the mouth.
December 27th, 2022
Sure. Ukraine forced Putin to invade them, by deposing his sockpuppet in 2014 and failing to defer to him since.
December 27th, 2022
Gweilo, you are as simple as your opinions.
December 27th, 2022
Google Benjamin Abelow.
December 27th, 2022
redstar1970 & the other US empire babies whip out that “putin lover” defense every time. It’s the non argument of weak egos finding out the vast majority of the human race is rightly anti American.
*Mandela’s Daring Speech Against the Unspeakable* Atrocities Committed by America
https://youtu.be/40ur8me8_O4
December 27th, 2022
cklem420: You might try talking about facts, not just ad hominem.
Anyway, sure, Russia isn’t communist, arguably has some form of capitalism. Irrelevant, Putin is the dictator, and doesn’t have a licence to invade a neighbour because he feels slighted. There is no “self defence” argument. He has 4500 nukes. No one was ever going to invade his borders.
December 27th, 2022
You need a brainscan
December 27th, 2022
The only good vatnik is a dead vatnik.
December 27th, 2022
It’s like no one has read the book yet….eh? Highbrow comments section that I live for!
December 27th, 2022
The US tightening the noose around Russia’s neck, WOW why are they fighting us ?
Russia and China are pretty much the last real holdouts of power that is not US controlled. Not good by any mean just a different group of as——- (i love censorship)
December 27th, 2022
Instead of parroting the establishment media and politicians, study history. The United States of America is guilty of horrible war crimes starting with dropping the first and only nuclear weapons used in war on Japan, then the Korean War, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya. I am American. I am not a Republican or Democrat. There are many people in the United States who see the evil in their politicians and government.
December 27th, 2022
Research the MIC (military industrial complex) and their relationship with the United States government and see how they benefit from a perpetual state of war. The USA loves wars that are fought on other countries’ soil because as wise general Smedley Butler famously said, “War is a racket.”
December 27th, 2022
Putin thought he’d have his fat little puppet Trump in the White House and that the Ukrainians would roll over .Wrong on both counts. Same old “Radio Moscow ” crap they’ve been farting out for 50 years.
December 27th, 2022
Thanks.
December 27th, 2022
P’haps ask Ukrainians what they want (earth-shattering proposal, I know) - if it isn’t already obvious. The days of Soviet imperialism ought to be over. That Ukrainians might still harbour a slight suspicion (following the Holodomor) that the Russians may not have their best interests at heart is verging on the understandable.
December 27th, 2022
The United States has committed war crimes in the past. That’s not something anyone denies.
On the other hand Russia is responsible for multiple genocides in the 20th century.
December 27th, 2022
Russia? USSR? which one? - and ‘multiple genocides’. Do go on?
December 27th, 2022
Oh, look. Someone who thinks Russia didn’t have complete control of the USSR during the 20th century. It’s like you fascists can’t be bothered to crack a book or do even the slightest bit of research before saying something incredibly stupid.
These genocides…
https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM
Also I’m sure the Palestinians would be free if they would just stop murdering random civilians. That sure hasn’t worked out for them at all.
December 27th, 2022
I’ll contact the Burns Unit for u, FP. You really ought not represent yourself in these matters. It always ends badly for you (after an admittedly appalling beginning). How can you have missed the 20th c ideological Dark Age? With the Soviets second only to China in mass murder? You can’t seriously be engaging in genocide-denial? Honestly, don’t you know any history? Or do u believe that anything you find emotionally inconvenient is Fake Nooze? Or it has The Joooze! behind it once again? Oy…
December 27th, 2022
Great upload, very timely.
When it comes to the west, it is never enough, always looking for something more, they are the masters of the universe as they liked to be called.
First was the deal, beyond Germany NATO will not take one step east, then beyond Poland, then beyond the Baltic states, then beyond Georgia and now Ukraine. Do You get my point?
And the west kept pushing forward until Russia took the bait and entered Ukraine. This war was 100% instigated by the west (USA). Putin just took the bait.
FreePalestine, could you help with this one?
Pirates and Emperors, Old and New: International Terrorism in the Real World
By: Noam Chomsky
Thanks!
December 27th, 2022
The “deal” is national sovereignty. The “deal” is drop the Stalinist oppression.
December 27th, 2022
But the USSR or Russia officially admitted and accepted that they have lost the cold war and there is now one superpower and that is the west. But it was never enough, the west always kept pushing for more at any cost until they brought us to the brink of a nuclear annihilation.
There was not Stalinist oppression left but a weakened reactionary state cornered from all sides by the west.
December 27th, 2022
This writing by the writer F. E. Sillanpää was published in the Suomen Sosialidemokraatti magazine on Christmas Eve in 1938. The publication caused a great uproar, which, among other things, led to the removal of Sillanpää’s works from German bookstores. A year later, Sillanpää was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.
(This is more or less a raw translation from Finnish by Google. I fixed some errors, but if something sounds odd, it’s probably my fault)
A Christmas letter to dictators
Gentlemen, I speak to you instinctively, even though I immediately notice that it is not in the right style. I guess with good reason that you yourself don’t really like that Mr. title - let’s say it’s the only title used by perhaps the greatest man on earth. The mightiest of you wants – excuse me: commands – to be addressed as a comrade, and when he’s also the bloodiest of you, there’s a good dose of humor in that comrade designation. One of you wants to be a leader – or more correctly a director in Finnish – and the third is downright il duce.
Well, Napoleon Bonaparte wanted to be emperor, and the position and attitudes of your dictators closely resemble that man, one of the most remarkable paradoxes in human history. He was - now I’m only talking about Napoleon, not you - one of the biggest evildoers in Europe, whose “life’s work” has nothing left but the memory of his crimes in the pages of history. Otherwise he was a very insignificant man, ravaged by a severe nervous disease, who easily lost his temper and his concepts and thereby made himself ridiculous. Both he and you are individuations produced by a special kind of time.
When your great and talented peoples’ dark sleepwalker period is over, so are you. Those who have not allowed themselves to be fooled, but have kept pure the spark of high humanity, will emerge. It has required a fight and many have fallen and perished at the hands of your “power”. Or rather, only their earthly dust has perished. For your power will not reach higher than the dust of the earth. A lot of blood and tears have flowed under the lashes.
BUT if some have fallen, someone will always make it there, to the moment when the clouds part and the sun of humanity Rises blessing those who wake up from the nightmare. Then the rejoicing will be great, the Jews and the Greeks can embrace each other according to the doctrine that has passed through the dark ages of millennia, during which greatnesses of various names have imagined that they have suppressed it in the dust that they have raised from the earth on their march. Then the joy is so great that we momentarily forget what we just endured.
Only sometime later will we with vague feelings look at your worldly accomplishments, some roads and canals, some draining of swamps - which last mentioned in the eyes of us Finns are quite modest. We look at them like we look at a cemetery. We suspect - and we know - that they have not been born from the people’s happy anergy, but a lot of blood and tears have been shed under the blows of the whip.
It is more than likely that the practical meaning of those devices of yours will then be the same as the pyramids of Egypt. But even at that time, the life works of your great – really great – citizens are still fresh, because they have been stored higher than where your most ferocious sowers of death could have soared with their machines. The life works of Dante, Goethe and Tolstoy, Bach and Beethoven have not faded in the slightest - rather, their spirit at the moment of liberation seems even brighter.
And above all, the great Jewish basic doctrine shines even brighter then, the birth of which we here in North and somewhere else can fearlessly celebrate, at least this time as free people. It is the doctrine of great, unselfish love, which you call weakness and laugh at in derision. But it has, as said, lasted longer than the teachings and applications of anyone like you, when humanity reached this age.
WE sometimes find it difficult to restrain our moral rage in the face of your actions, although we should have a quiet moment for you too, dear poor human children; countless such moments of prayer have surely been held for you. When, during the Christmas celebration, we especially focus on remembering the man who truly loved even those who in the most horrific way raped and tortured his earthly being to death, then we forget you, at least for a moment, and the best of us have a benevolent thought for you.
I see in my eyes your mocking expressions; you think our Christmas hymn is the sound of a mosquito next to your roar. But we, for our part, know that our standards are higher than yours, and we strengthen in the conviction that victory will be ours once. Ours, whose motto a great German once summed up in the words: Be a noble person, helpful and good.
F. E. Sillanpää
December 27th, 2022
Good man, illodiini - perfect timing. Like Ozymandias - “look upon my works and despair.”
Universal love over all ideological hatred.
@Low - Utterly wrong. Putin is an oppressive, Cold War KGB dinosaur. Instead of worshipping his power, spare a thought for the Ukrainians this Christmas.
December 28th, 2022
Many an opinion seems to be uttered by children, unaware of history (Cuban missile Crisis or US destroying democracies in Iran, Chile, Guatemala, add another 195 interventions since 1950!)
While bemoaning Russian occupation the USA and its European allies occupy Syria, and Israel has occupied land since 1967 with the Protection/co-operation of the USA.
December 28th, 2022
Da! Putin strong like bull - America Great Satan! Putin crush Ukrainian children. That show them - they utter no more!
December 28th, 2022
@caesar963 - Spare a thought for *all* Ukrainians, including those who speak Russian…
Thank you uploader, from one who prefers to hear both sides of history and use her own judgement.
December 28th, 2022
Yeah, I said “spare a thought for the Ukrainians this Christmas” - this includes all victims of Russian aggression, including the children who are being killed & injured. Do listen to that side as well, the side that was actually attacked & brutally invaded. Also, study the history of what Russia did to Ukraine (if your stomach is strong enough) and all the other countries they invaded & brutalised.
December 28th, 2022
How Russia Brought War to Ukraine
FTFY
December 28th, 2022
As if… there are any good guys or any bad guys in this or any governmental fiasco. There are only the rich and the poor, the elites and the rest of struggling humanity (like me - not in Davos) lol.
December 28th, 2022
Oh, there are certainly bad guys. You can at least be assured of that.
How these useful id!ots are so worshipful of Putin’s brutalising power is truly baffling. Although, there were armies of such id!ots over the last century.
Is there anything he would do that they wouldn’t support? That’s the central rhetorical q.
December 28th, 2022
At last a little helping of truth among the steady tasteless diet of propaganda.
”P’haps ask Ukrainians what they want (earth-shattering proposal, I know) - if it isn’t already obvious. The days of Soviet imperialism ought to be over. That Ukrainians might still harbour a slight suspicion (following the Holodomor) that the Russians may not have their best interests at heart is verging on the understandable.”
That paragraph takes some beating for ignoring the obvious and unconscious irony.
We all know that Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 and others up to and including Biden and his blood soaked buddies only wanted peace and self-determination for the peoples of the world. Some oil and stuff for themselves, yeah, but peace really and foremost.
December 28th, 2022
Quote:”Yeah. What are the chances these Ukrainian neo-nazis would put a Jewish man in control of Ukraine?
How stupid do you have to be to believe that would actually happen?” Unquote.
Pretty stupid to think just because somebody is Jewish he does not publically condone the philosophy of Stepan Bandera.
December 28th, 2022
…so, yet again intentionally ignoring Putin’s appalling actions in brutally invading a neighbouring country (quick, every1 - look over @ America!). Of course you naturally hold Putin in the highest ethical esteem & cannot find any fault in him, & I get that you’ve never heard of the planned famines back in the ideological day, but is there really nothing he could do - no savagery - that you wouldn’t support? Is it really all about power worship, & nothin’ else with u guys?
December 28th, 2022
This was not a surprise considering what kind of “material” FreePalestine is posting here.
December 28th, 2022
Laughable stuff from our resident wise guy as usual.
Well it’s not about power worship. I reckon you’ve got that sewn up with your deliberate ignorance of America’s imperial record. No country has been so bloody in modern times, and it’s a measure of your limitations that you resort to alluding to the dark days of Stalinism instead of focusing on the subject at hand. If I were as unimaginative and short of argument as you, I might drag up native American deaths, or mention that the Vietnam War was launched on the pure fiction of The Gulf of Tonkin. So how far back do you want to go in your egotistically driven need to appear superior intellectually? The US currently has around 750 military bases in foreign countries while Russia has about 30. That’s military expansion for you. Your prose is literally littered with adjectives and adverbs which beg the questions, if Putin’s behaviour is ‘appalling’, why aren’t you purple prosing about America’s? And ‘brutal’? Shall we ignore ‘Shock and Awe’ in Iraq where around 10, 000 civilians met their deaths in a few days, and the wonderful Basra Road massacre some years earlier followed by ten years of sanctions in which half a million children died? We might recall what Libya was like for its people before it became a slave market thanks to NATO’s invasion. Or why the US is squatting in Syria stealing its oil and funding ISIS. Russia has been restrained in its attacks even after the Kerch bridge was bombed, going for infrastructure instead of residential areas, quite unlike the Ukrainian forces who have littered the Donbass with limb-losing petal mines.
So I’ll ask you a similar question: is there nothing the US can do that will open your eyes to their brutality and rapaciousness. Madeline Allbright said the deaths of half a million children was a price worth paying. Has Putin or any of his allies said anything sim’lar? Come on, smarty pants. Tell me how the true cause of democracy is being pushed by America in its own backyard. 28 million Venezuelans might have other thoughts on the matter.
December 28th, 2022
Khameleon: And who appointed fascist Putin to the presidency, whose favorite philosopher is fascist and Nazi-collaborator Ivan Ilyin?
December 28th, 2022
Wow, how firmly insecure of you. So, in keeping with this book, back in 1939, you would also have believed that Poland invaded nat socialist Germany & the USSR? Simultaneously? Rather than vice versa? Brilliant, you’ve even Dunning-Krugered poor ol’ FreeP out of competition with your sterling “analytical” prowess (”Durr, multiple genocides? What multiple genocides? Durrr?”).
I condemn all imperial abuses, obviously you can’t say the same. Only some, because Putin’s abusive power is so brutally cool. And “restrained” in Chechnya, Ukraine, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
Launching ‘human wave’ attacks in desperate WW1-style fight for Bakhmut - that’s in real time now. But what will open your eyes to Putin’s “brutality and rapaciousness?” Anything?
Putin strong like Bull! Putin truth like Bull!
Drop another informed dump, why dontcha?
December 28th, 2022
Your first para makes little sense. You have no idea of the events leading up to this war, which is what I would have expected from one as poorly informed yet as stridently opinionated as yourself.You just want to win arguments in order to feed your overinflated sense of superiority. Look up Eva Bartlett, Patrick Lancaster , The Grayzone and General Douglas Macgregor. Get another side of things instead of being hidebound to a perspective that’s as false and self serving as you yourself are.
You lie esily. You do not condemn all imperial abuses or you would be looking more closely at America’s involvement in foreign countries which in quantity alone, makes it the biggest threat to civilisation in the world today. Of course you don’t see that. It doesn’t fit your prejudice. And it makes you blind to reality,seeing in others faults you display all too openly in yourself.
You have a Russophobic inclination and slide down it every chance you get. So it’s ‘Chechnya, Ukraine, Afghanistan, etc. etc.’ huh? Etc Etc? That all you got? No answers for Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen? 370 thousand people killed in Yemen and you don’t give it a moment’s condemnation. Try and squeeze out mention of a few more countries, to try and appear at least kind of, sort of, semi-informed in that quasi-demotic, music journalistic tone we all adm
December 28th, 2022
What power worship? This word was tossed around so foolishly.
Would America tolerate Canada or Mexico joining with communist Russia in a military alliance?
What is Russia war on Ukraine comparing to the history of intervention of the U.S.?
Ironically none of these interventions where at America’s backyard, care to notice?
Meanwhile, the West, with the U.S. at the forefront, continues with its explicitly stated strategy of weakening Russia to the point of regime collapse, thereby leaving no room for negotiations. All these developments indicate that peace remains distant in Ukraine and that the war may in fact be poised to become even more violent.
To put it simply, the U.S. position that the war must continue to severely weaken Russia, blocking negotiations, is based on a quite remarkable assumption: that facing defeat, Putin will pack his bags and slink away to a bitter fate. He will not do what he easily can: strike across Ukraine with impunity using Russia’s conventional weapons, destroying critical infrastructure and Ukrainian government buildings, attacking the supply hubs outside Ukraine, moving on to sophisticated cyberattacks against Ukrainian targets. All of this is easily within Russia’s conventional capacity, as U.S. government and the Ukrainian military command acknowledge — with the possibility of escalation to nuclear war in the not remote background.
All of this doesn’t make it clear to you Caesar you simpleton! Wouldn’t you be happy then?
December 28th, 2022
In these dark times of Assange and Snowdon being jailed for speaking the truth it brings me solace to know that on a random audiobook site there are such well informed people. Just promise me please that you spread the word offline too and don’t expend all your energies attempting to convert a reactionary Caesar bot who has no intention of reading any of these. Remember to share offline too ! - this material needs main-streaming! And debate calmly with others who want to learn because once upon a time we knew less than we do now and it was a calm patient person that showed us the right path….
December 28th, 2022
Woman on my road was killed by her partner. Just like NATO, her own behaviour probably led to it.
December 28th, 2022
2014 Crimea became part of Russia, did it affect the West? No. Ukraine doesn’t matter to the West either. It’s just propaganda telling folks to care (they didn’t in 2014). Why this propaganda? The whole thing stinks. Like the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
December 29th, 2022
Oh, and this thing should be listed under Fantasy tag, since it has nothing to do with history or reality.
December 29th, 2022
So, “blah, blah, too sleazy to condemn Putin’s brutal actions, blah, humiliating power worship, blah, blah, Putin strong like bull, blah, get the real truth from Der Stürmer, blah, Great Satan, blah, blah, blah?” Gotcha.
I ask you reasonable questions, you can’t answer, immediately evade; I condemn all imperial aggression, you try to distract with puerile abuse, & essentially admit there’s nothing Putin would do that you wouldn’t support. Also, any criticism of Russian atrocities & invasions, past & present, is “Russophobic,” of course, but that’s when your propaganda rant runs outta juice, as you collapse mid-sentence. Brilliant. Putin-bot talks like Bull.
You really shouldn’t shill like that for free, he is the wealthiest guy in the world after all; $70 billion on a salary of just $187,000. The little dick-tator must be an aggressive saver, eh? Even the KGB pension wouldn’t bring him up that high. Good luck explaining that to yerself.
“You have no idea of the events leading up to this war” - Another self-refuting ass-ertion, as it was actually an invasion & war of aggression. But don’t let facts get in the way, or anything…
December 29th, 2022
@Loewe ebb - Yeah, disgusting power worship & failure to condemn any of Putin’s actions. Not even once.
A human rights abuser, aggressive invader of neighbouring countries, unconscionable kleptomaniac, poisoner & murderer of journalists & opposition, ruthlessly implacable opponent of democracy. That’s the sleazy power you guys rush to worship & fear to criticise.
“weakening Russia to the point of regime collapse” - Perhaps don’t invade sovereign states & try to undermine or bomb them into submission then? Maybe allow actual elections, free press & a democratic opposition in Russia? This is honestly the “regime” you want to defend & maintain? Unbelievable. You couldn’t make it up. Oh wait - you just did.
“peace remains distant in Ukraine” - Oy. So, don’t invade, or, having invaded, get the phck out of another people’s country. And pay some of that stolen $70 billion in reparations.
You guys are so mindless that you must be ideologues.
December 29th, 2022
@FreeP - “there are such well informed people” - Why don’t you listen to us, learn & understand then? Or ineducability might be your real elephant in the room here.
I don’t think you read/comprehend/listen to books like these, however - or even real books, tbh.
Someone opposed to all genocidal tyrants & ideologies is “reactionary?” Call us when the shuttle lands, heinrich.
“this material needs main-streaming!” - It needs flushing is what it needs, u colossal eejit.
“once upon a time we knew less than we do now” - Crikey, you once knew even less than you do now? But you don’t know anything now. That would be a negative value you’re indicating.
“it was a calm patient person that showed us the right path” - Lemme guess: Stalin? Hitler? Mao? Or another of your heroes?
You hate Jews, yet you revealed that you don’t even know what Jewishness means.
Your reaction to the Russian regime’s multiple genocides was - what multiple genocides?
You are completely ignorant of history & politics, and you are essentially a subliterate, hateful ideologue. That’s tough love for ya, baby. A necessary wake-up call.
December 29th, 2022
Ceasar is speaking sense, the rest of you opposing him here are either living on Russian troll farms or are willfully obtuse and deeply troubled people. I have marched in four separate demonstrations against US invasions. The protest against the Iraq invasion remains the largest global protest in the history of the world and I was there. People like Ceasar and I DO condemn and hate all imperial aggression, US included, loudly and without reservation. We also condemn Putin’s doing the same.
You, on the other hand, use this classic “but what about this other thing” 8th grade debating class rhetorical fallacy in order to avoid condemnation of a war criminal. Here’s the basic point, guys: just because X does bad things, doesn’t mean that Y doesn’t also do bad things, and we should condemn all of them.
This evasive nonsense is genuinely infantile.
December 29th, 2022
Spot on, oljimmy. They prove themselves to be brutal, ignorant power-worshippers with each succeeding hysterical outburst. If they could offer appropriate condemnation of Putin’s blood-soaked regime - any reasoned criticism whatsoever - they might be worth heeding. But they can’t, so they’re not. The mindless calculus is: if it’s not America, then genocide, or any level of human rights violation, is perfectly acceptable - even praiseworthy. So China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc. etc. - just let her rip, lads. Their gruesome geometry of ideological hatred.
December 29th, 2022
This author works for RT, one of the state funded news agencies that Putin allows to operate. America is by no means innocent of not funding their own insurrections in the past but the color revolutions were maybe just maybe in response to all the rigged elections, martial law, privatization of media, political assassinations etc etc etc.
There’s a Yale alumni speech on youtube by Mike McFaul that gives a great summary of the factors leading into the 2022 invasion that doesn’t happen to be sponsored and censored by the Kremlin.
December 29th, 2022
No big country (or “superpower”, if that gives you a hard-on) with multiple levels of bureaucracy can control all its actions, even if trying to be on the side of good.
People are basically the same everywhere. The turds unfortunately are very good to pop to the surface. Any system which allows strong leaders is a prime example. While democracy has its faults, it ordinarily prevents also little guys with big ideas without any morals or brainpower behind them to get too much prestige. Usually those guys pick their propaganda up somewhere and misunderstand and bastardize it for their own purpose. Like Putin does.
Anyway, Ukraniens wanted to get inside NATO, and still wants. Because you can’t trust Russia, plain and simple.
December 29th, 2022
Here’s an Edward de Bono-style approach: Russia applies to join NATO as well. Stops terrorising its neighbours, and starts to cooperate instead. If the Cold War is genuinely over & they sincerely wish to be part of the community of nations. Of course, they’ll probably have to get rid of KGB klapped-out kleptocrat dinosaur Putin, as a preliminary gesture towards semi-civilised good faith negotiations.
A form of “Prexit.” Or “Prick-sit” even.
December 29th, 2022
@ceasar963:
Once again, and quite delightfully I might add, your ego will not allow you to leave without a response. Not a reasoned response, filled as it is with ‘blah blah’s, cod-pigeon English and amusingly unconscious, ironic accusations of ‘puerile abuse’. You are incapable of reasoned response, and the measured refutation of an argument is beyond you. You prefer to ignore what to a rational person would be salient points. But as your post clearly shows, you are not a rational person.You prefer to spray your sentences with verbal excreta and over generous helpings of digressions and assertions that shout down and insult, rather than answer.
It is useless to argue with you. You have no knowledge of the subject and as much as I’ve witnessed, little of any other, once your veneer of sneering semantic bravado is scraped off. The Ukraine/Donbass conflict has been going on since 2014 at least, prompted by a coup in Maidan in which Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt were involved. But why am I telling you this? What do you know? Or care? You just want to swamp the opposition under a tide of stolid, verbal sludge until the truth is drowned and everyone acknowledges that you, baby, are De Man. You are the empty barrel that makes most noise, though you parade yourself on these pages as the fount of omniscience, and some on here are easily fooled.
You are a stranger to reason. An alien to common sense. You have no intention of engaging in any kind of debate regarding the Russia/NATO conflict, or anything else. Your comments show you acutely liable to spew scorn in order to hide the inadequacy of your knowledge. You have performed like this for some years now, charging at issues like a bull at a red flag and ignoring all the red white and blue ones waving at you from every beleagured corner of the planet. I could name three or four countries which since the collapse of the Soviet Union have been crushed under the American boot for every one you claim to have suffered under Russia’s. But in your eyes ‘imperialist aggression’ only comes from one source. I’m inviting a response which might require some thinking about. I doubt you’re up to it. But I also doubt you can leave it. Your ego won’t allow it.
December 29th, 2022
What an abusive Putin-bot! Although malfunctioning more than just a bit. The blahs? Had to paraphrase your Russian-controlled media screed somehow, didn’t I? Y’know all your “independent critical botting.”
You’re ticking all your demented boxes: no substance, tedious repetition, mindless abuse, desperate distraction measures, weird projection, zero self-awareness. A bogus concern for “truth” (ho, ho); that the Putin power you worship & its brutal invasion of a neighbouring sovereign state is so “restrained” - yeah they’re all there, present & incorrect.
That Russia didn’t make genocidal war on its own people & its miserable imperial subjects - to the cost of 25 million human lives murdered/starved, or create slave states; the Holodomor? Forced, planned famine in Ukraine? Can you even admit this, or like FreeP are you totally ignorant?
— “Countries you claim to have suffered under Russia’s boot” — did you seriously miss the entire 20th century? It’s only the Great Satan, & that’s it? A Soviet utopia that people risked their lives to escape. An “open” prison, a political cesspit, and an ideological death camp.
However, in your unusually small/vacuous head, none of this can have happened, or be admitted. Did you attend Putin U - that august institution? To study history & ethics, no doubt?
Putin’s your guy, we get it. You don’t have to labour-camp the point. But is it the brutal power, or the 70 stolen billion that you’re most attracted to? P’haps you could try your “hand” @ romantic fiction, alongside your historical & political fic?
“I could name three or four countries” - I sincerely doubt that weird boast, your geography is as egregiously bad as your history & politics.
You’ve been tragically felled/suckered by the most chronic case of galloping Dunning-Kruger ever witnessed in the wild. (You’re probably more Freddy Krueger @ this point.) You ought to be under the closest observation, with teams of psychiatrists & specialists giggling at you.
December 29th, 2022
There you are, and bang on schedule. Your knowledge of modern Russia is so lamentably lame you think they’re still Communist. Typically lacking in self awareness, you accuse me of the same tropes and then parrot them yourself. Anybody who has an alternative point of view is a bot. Wonderful stuff. Easier than trying to understand, ain’t it?. I can hardly type this for laughing. How many times you gonna mention the Great Satan? Try the Evil Empire next, and give my eyes a rest.
I see you don’t even try to name any countries beyond the ones you’ve already mentioned. Chechnya, Afghanistan, yawn……Just doubted that I could respond to the question you’re too ill informed to answer in the first place. But I knew you’d come up with something, eager little ego that you are, even if it’s just the tripe we’re all accustomed to reading from you.
Even you ought to know that Russia is no longer communist and yet you continue to bring Stalin up as though he’s still in power. Is that really all you have to base your prejudice on? The events of 90 years ago? Even the Yanks loved ‘Uncle Joe’ back then, when 27 million Russians died in the Second World War fighting the fascists. But as far as your understanding stretches, Russian history begins and ends with Stalin. Well, there you go. That’s the extent of your knowledge right there.
Try and name a few countries Russia’s been booting over the past thirty years. If you sincerely doubt that weird boast, look on it as a challenge. Have a go, Ego. (Though I see you more Igor at this point. you’ve definitely got the hump) Don’t let me down. You De Man.
December 29th, 2022
“you think they’re still Communist” - Yeah, could you support that one? No.
Of course, “modern” advanced Russia is an exemplary paragon of human rights & liberal democratic values. According to the mindless media muck you incessantly consume, at any rate. And a great neighbour into the bargain. Every1 knows this garbage. They’ve changed so much on the ol’ human rights front, with KGB Putin at the blood-stained helm.
“Anybody who has an alternative point of view is a bot” - Not at all. But you are, because you pleasure yourself with alternative facts. They don’t fly, tankie engine.
Oh, you mean the Great Satan?
The countries oppressed by Russia? The entire empire which was desperate to break away from them, and which they still wish to coercively control? Recall the good old days of oppressively dominating Eastern Europe as well. Oh sorry, that’s history, you don’t know about that. My bad. Don’t worry, you can just keep making it up.
Any idea why their neighbours tend to hate, fear & totally distrust them? How does that fit into your kleptocratic Kremlin narrative? Why they drive their neighbours into NATO with their genius/ethical foreign policy?
Of course it’s not communist; as I told you, it’s a brutal kleptocracy. Keep up. But in common with China & several of the other genocidal utopias, it has retained the ideological, human rights abusing repression.
You do know that the Soviets were allied to the nat socialists before they were stiffed by them? That they supplied them & jointly invaded Poland with them?
Uh, Stalin died in ‘53 - that’s 69 yrs ago (that’s the number you’d love to do with Vlad) - not 90 yrs ago. So, you’re useless at mathematics as well - in addition to history, politics & geography? Your Putin U experience really did quite the number on you.
Do you also imagine that the Soviet Empire was a paradise before & after Stalin? You’re in for a nasty wake-up if you ever begin to learn anything. Yeah, Stalin supplied the nat socialists, then wasted 27 million lives fighting them, because then, as now, human life didn’t matter to these brutal id1ots.
One evil ideology replaced another in Eastern Europe post-45. And useful id1ots like yourself were the brainless cheerleaders.
Just try to honestly critique Putin’s regime for once. Try to be honest about the incompetence, the massive corruption, the human rights violations - don’t just mindlessly worship barbaric power.
December 29th, 2022
…although your panicky, ignorant attempts at defending the indefensible inadvertently offer the most savage condemnation of the regime. So, do continue…
December 29th, 2022
Don’t think I’ve had the pleasure of watching Webby1948 wipe the floor with Caesar’s arse before but it’s certainly brightened up my week! Tremendous stuff.
PS. the book is only about 90 mins long from recollection…surely even the mighty Caesar could manage that???
December 29th, 2022
Webby is obviously a joke, a boring and bad one, to be honest. All the while Russia is trying to lay waste of Ukraine and its people. Every decent human being is disgusted, but these putin-sponsored trolls.
December 30th, 2022
Absolutely, illodiini.
December 30th, 2022
Oh dear, FreeP, while I appreciate ur clearly impartial read, u power-phckers have just been “expunged” (I know u guys love yer sleazy ideological euphemisms). But really, why are u so diamond-hard for a human rights abuser? Truly baffling. As is your “genocide? What genocide?” & your failing to understand what Jewishness means, but there ya go.
Good news on your wk brightening up as well, & there u were thinking that all u had to look forward to this wk was the increasing death toll of Ukrainian civilians. How utterly tremendous for u! (U should get your special tissues, heinrich.)
December 30th, 2022
I see I’ve not missed much.
This is for the one who calls himself caesar. But the one calling himself Illodini can have some as well. Tweedledumb and Tweedle dumber.
Your puerile ‘humour’might have some use here. To illustrate how verifiable information splats as it meets a huge , thick, brick wall of wilful dumb ignorance, I’ve tried to reach down to your level. Couldn’t find a stick long enough but hey, a guy has to be duh-ish and derivative in order to come up with a style like yours.
The overthrow of Ukranian President Yanukovich in February 2014 was prefigured by a phone call on January 27th between assistant US Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyat. It was recorded. It can be heard without the slightest effort by anyone interested in the truth.
You won’t want to see it. Cos Poot’n baaad.
On February 9, 1990 U.S. Secretary of State James Baker assured Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would move “not one inch eastward” to bring Eastern European countries into NATO. Concern was understandable then, more so now. This claim has been denied, but was proven by Boston professor Joshua Shifrinson, who published an op-ed article in the Los Angeles Times in May 2016. This shows that six years ago, nearly seven, it was still an issue of contention.
But Poot’n baaaad. He invade Crimea. America only invade Libya, Syria and Afghanistan. And Yemen. And sanction Venezuela.
A further leaked call between EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet has them discussing allegations that the Feb 2014 coup in Ukraine was engineered and Azov snipers were used.
But this is just propaganda. Though they were recorded and they did question the legality of the coup. But Poot’n baaaad. America only went into Uganda,Iraq again. And Somalia. And were still in Afghanistan.
A law passed in April 2019 required all Ukrainian citizens to use the Ukrainian language in official duties. This effectively banned ethnic Russians from holding official posts such as teachers, bank employees and local politicians. Ethnic Russians in the Donbass were half the population.
Nobody denies that , but so what? America only declared Juan Guido Venezuelan president. And bombed Syria. And Yemen. And continued to occupy Afghanistan. Poot’n baaaad.
Former Colonel Andrew Milburn, now running a mercenary group in Ukraine, claimed in a video recently released that Ukrainian soldiers were killing and mutilating Russian POWs.Filming themselves. Posting videos online.
The media doesn’t report this. But on Youtube you can see and hear Milburn discussing it.
It won’t change anybody’s mind, certainly not yours. Cos Poot’n baaaad.
In a recent televised interview Angela Merkel admitted The Minsk accord signed in 2015 as a basis of peace in The Donbass, was never intended to be honoured and was signed just to stall Russia while Poroshenko prepared for conflict.
Anybody can see that interview online. But so what? Poot’n baaaad. Mericka always keep word.
The US went to the brink of a world war to stop nuclear weapons being kept in Cuba, 103 miles from its coast. Zelensky has asked for nuclear weapons to be installed in Ukraine and has even asked for a pre emptive strike on Moscow. That’s billionaire Zelensky.
No one will blame him if it causes a nuclear war. Cos there’ll be nobody alive. And, er, Poot’n baaaaad.
America has been instrumental in at least a dozen wars this century alone. Not counting Ukraine (who it’s given over a hundred billion dollars). As a result , more than 4 million people are dead. They’re not white, so you don’t need to signal your virtuous condemnation of Imperialism. Like you always do…. erm. Anyway. It all Pootn fault. Putin ‘blood soaked’. Poot’n baaaaaaad. (Last word tails off in demented strangled shriek)
December 30th, 2022
Nobody has the time to read your super long-winded diatribe, life is way too short for that. Talking about that, people and their positions change, even countries change, as times go by.
Apparently Russia will not. It will be the slave society with its power crazy leaders forever. And there will be trolls like you sucking up to them and defending them. You pretend that you don’t notice all the criticism that America receives, only that there should be no blame against your sugardaddy Putin.
Like I wrote, you’re nothing but a bad joke.
December 30th, 2022
A mere 600 words or so. Your own laughable ‘contribution’ on this page alone stretches the patience well beyond 800. To less effect, too.
Your views are surprisingly orthodox. For a person who wishes to give the impression of being intelligent your opinions are the same as someone who never reads a book and believes everything the news programs tell him. They stick comfortably close to the main stream of propaganda. Inclining me to the belief that with every tap of your fingers you evidence one who desperately wants to be seen as intelligent but doesn’t want to put himself out or the work in.
Your friend’s little splurge on men in white coats is similarly revealing. I have heard such things go on in prison - and certainly so in Guantanamo Bay and Abbu Graib - and I wonder if he was writing from experience or whether it is just another fantasy derived from an undersized amygdala.
There’s more of gravy, than grave about both of you….
December 30th, 2022
I can really feel your pain for Ukraine. Your approval of my output is not needed. Go back under your private rock.
December 30th, 2022
You do not have my approval. What on earth makes you think I’ve read it? You need have no fear of that so long as there’s paint somewhere to watch drying. Its far more informative and entertaining. Without the aggression too. No, I just copied it to Word and had it count. It’s what Word tools are for. Haven’t figured out what purpose some other tools serve yet, however.
I suspect they’re cautionary.
December 30th, 2022
@Webby1948
You’re wrong about Putin. So, there’s that.
But you’re absolutely bang on the money about Caesar there. Just jab him with a pencil and take over his entire day. Classic stuff.
December 31st, 2022
print it on toilet paper so we can all enjoy it.
December 31st, 2022
You’re on a troll roll with benson. Points of agreement u can pursue with him: worship of power, genocidal ideology, and brutal imperialism - with historical ignorance, bigotry & racism thrown in gratis. You’ll both be, uh, winners (yeah, we’ll go with that).
January 1st, 2023
It’s a given that almost anyone appears an intellectual when these trolls come out of the woodwork and spew their sponsored hate speech. It was also very typical that my almost every word was distorted by an obvious bully from some putin cult, where he had had his glory days by belittling others.
Now, tovarisch webby, no-one, anywhere, needs your approval of anything. Because you’re nothing.
Happy New year to almost everybody!
January 1st, 2023
Thank you for the great, short book! It was full of inconvenient truths that many may find uncomfortable! Putin is a thug and the acts of the Russian military are deplorable but his concerns are legitimate and the criticism from the West is hypocritical. If we did onto others as we would like to be done to ourselves the world would be a better place.
Thank you @Webby1948 and @FreeePalastine for keeping it real
January 1st, 2023
Caesar thinks all of those things about me because I used the word “blarney” once and he got all upset about it.
He’s utterly failed to provide any evidence at all for the other things he accuses me of, just like all the misguided and erroneous blather he comes out with towards anyone who ever dare disagree with his voluminous outpourings of unbidden drivel.
However, I happen to agree with Caesar this time, at least about the intentions of Putin and the utter waste of time whataboutery is (”but America did this…” well ok, but that justifies invasion in this case? No, it does not).
I now invite Caesar to explain in roughly 5000 words how I can’t possibly fully agree with him because he is so much more clever than everybody else.
Over to you Caesar. Hopefully I can keep you up all night with the puffin’ and the fumin’.
January 1st, 2023
Oh, and Caese…
“Ass-ertion” is neither funny or clever. It’s rubbish. Deeply, cringingly rubbish.
January 1st, 2023
I’ve only just come across the above comments by C963 and Illodini, the other right wing stooge. And my first thought was to ignore them.
The first was easy to ignore. The man who professes knowledge he plainly lacks and gets angry when challenged is a bully and a fool. Ignorance, bigotry and racism are so easy to perceive in others; devastating to admit in oneself. I’ll leave C963 to his own epiphany. May it come soon and forceful.
The other one calls me ‘an obvious bully from some putin cult’ when I’ve been replying in kind and if unkind, well, serves him right. I have stung him with my admission that I’ve not read his comment. Why should I have? It is mind-numbingly familiar. It is presented on every single news bulletin, and far more professionally than through the digestion of a mind which accepts then half-wittedly regurgitates everything his TV tells him. Few seem to realise that a state which has told its people that Saddam had WMDs, that Gadaffi was ‘killing his own people’, that 9/11 was the work of Al Quida then enlists the same organisation to spearhead an uprising in Syria,and has a history of deceiving its own people and the world time and time again, may be less than truthful this time round also.
And all these tales of Russian atrocities. Anybody with eyes and ears has come across similar tales of Ukrainian soldiers mutilating and killing Russian POWs, yet lamentably few ask themselves why their news sources aren’t even mentioning them.
I hesitate to begin a sentence with: Illodini seems to think….because evidently he does not, though he’s noisy about it. But the prevalent mindset in the West is that Russians are subhuman, and completely ignores the fact that Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe, Zelensky was elected on a manifesto promising peace with Russia, and the one deciding the passage and extent of this war is NATO, or rather the USA, which is the same thing. Russia is defending its borders and its people. Greed and lust for power haven’t pushed its army into Ukraine. But they’ve pushed NATO’s, and will probably result in Ukraine becoming a land locked failed state. The ordinary peaceful citizens of Ukraine from the Donbass to Kiev are dying because of Obama’s and Biden’s duplicity. It’s a fact that some people are unwilling to grasp, because if they did they’d have to wake up.
January 2nd, 2023
Those are seriously dishonest ass-ertions, benson, as you well know. You did indeed use racially-coded language, there’s no argument about that. However, your more disturbing racism was revealed when you claimed that here, under the Brutish Empire, “There was no racism!” And then did a gruesome Goebbels by desperately & clumsily equivocating on what you “thought” racism was. I specifically challenged you on this & you predictably disappeared.
Your position on the disgusting Putin regime is at least more honest than that of the toxic troll bot, “Webby1933″ - but this useful fool is cheerleading acts of pure, unadulterated evil. It could do with a stronger condemnation, but everyone’s ethical mileage is subject to variation.
January 2nd, 2023
As for the other utter nutter, he complains about bullies, fools, ignorance, bigotry & racism, yet supports & power-worships - Vladimir Putin.
Comprehensive self-refutation in just a few sentences. When you do the job of undermining your own position so devastatingly, reasonable people scarcely need to bother.
Your Great Leader, Standard-Bearer for the Left & Mass-Murderer of the Year has a vulgar palace worth over a billion dollars & has stolen 70 billion dollars from the Russian people.
This has to be an act - nobody could be as stupid as you & still live.
“May it come soon & forceful” - Oh, like you with your stained pictures of Putin, you mean?
“a history of deceiving its own people & the world time & time again” - You are shilling for Russia, remember? You do know some history, don’t you? Oy…
“Al Quida” - I know you’re trying very hard to express yourself like a big boy, but at least try to work on your spelling. You consistently come across like a right clown. Also, aim for an adequate comprehension of what the words & concepts actually signify. Use your nice crayons for the first draft, if necessary.
“tales” of Russian atrocities - Brilliant. Bears repeating.
“Ukraine (not Russia, of course) is the most corrupt country in Europe.”
“the prevalent mindset in the West is that Russians are subhuman” - The view, supported by the evidence, is that Putin is a corrupt, human rights-abusing tyrant. Also that Russia has always been appallingly governed in that way.
“Russia is defending its borders & its people” - by invading & terrorising its neighbours. Again. Forcing countries to secure themselves by joining NATO. Genius policy measures, I’m sure you “think” Wobbly.
“Greed & lust for power haven’t pushed its army into Ukraine.” - Is all your stuff directly sourced from mindless propaganda?
“ordinary peaceful citizens of Ukraine are dying because of Obama’s/Biden’s duplicity.” - Not because Putin’s forces actually invaded, & are bombing & murdering them? Do you have a serious head injury? You can’t believe your own shyte. Nobody else does.
You whine about where people in democracies source their news - then immediately & clumsily fall flat on your face by naively swallowing all Russian state propaganda & the bumf from conspiracy sites. Your alternative fact network. You couldn’t come across as more of an ideological cliché if you were scripted by a satirist.
I know you hate liberal democracy, but a Trump or a Biden can be voted out of power; a BoJo can be removed by established procedure. The West reports criticism & condemnation of its governments & their policies. What is your legitimate & democratically-grounded justification for favouring Putin’s regime-for-life? And what do you imagine to be his glowing, exemplary, unimpeachable record on human rights, corruption, democratic liberties, the rule of law, freedom of the press?
I know you’ll be very keen to convey your coherent feelings on these specific, relevant issues, & won’t want to perform yet another sleazy evasion manoeuvre.
January 2nd, 2023
@caesar - I think we’re done here. Let us use our time in something more significant than feeding this troll from the loosing side.
January 2nd, 2023
Stellar addition. The length of the commentary here vindicates the upload.
January 2nd, 2023
@illodini. Don’t yank your bear offstage yet. I’ve got things to say to him.
Caesar baby,
I’m still waiting for you to tell me all the countries Putin’s destroyed, so I can triple the number with regard to America.
You accuse others of doing exactly what you yourself do.You ass-ert with no evidence and no ass-iduity. You ass-everate without any ass-embly of facts. Not one fact. Ever.
You pick and choose what to believe as if Truth is an eat-what-you-want buffet.
Your blabberings are replete with absurdities and easily seen through. Putin’s no more left wing than you are a truth-seeking, considered , well informed individual.
Why don’t you know that at least, if you profess
to know so much?
You have not the faintest idea of his wealth but
you’re prepared to believe it’s enormous because
you’ve been told it is and you state it with all
the fervour of a religous convert. You’re not
remotely interested in the facts behind the
propaganda, are you? The deception behind the
Minsk accord? Nah. The bio-labs in Ukraine? Nah,
Nuland and Pyett’s phone call? Mere happenstance.
You’re a one-way street getting narrower as it
heads towards a cliff edge. Can’t turn aside now. Unleash the nukes.
I have to watch my spelling now? This from the
text-speech kiddy who (till this latest missive,
I see) has delighted in using ‘U’ for ‘You’,
ampersands galore and no end of demotics which he
‘thinks’ gives his psychotic ravings muscularity
and street cred?
I didn’t care to check the spelling on Al Qaeda.
Why should I? It was written in haste and I
thought a guy such as yourself, dumb as a barrow
of bricks, wouldn’t notice. But of course I
underestimated your puerile need to score any
kind of point to bolster an ego struggling with
the weight of terminal stupidity and inclined to
recite ever-more demented and desperate
repetitions of the same prejudices and
propaganda.
So demented and desperate indeed,that anyone who
frames an opposing opinion must be an info-bot
for the ‘other side’. Such is the
spluttering,irate response of the ill-informed
and wilfully ignorant, and because there’s no
point in my making any attempt to gainsay your
as(s)-inine ass-ertions I’ll content myself with
a few more observations.
You’ve made up your ‘mind’. Your risibly
misguided sense of superiority won’t allow you to
comprehend that everything you know has been
spoonfed to you as to a child in a high-chair.
You only believe the established narrative,
screamed from every page and TV screen. You have
an orthodox world view and there’s no changing
it.You will defend it against all evidence to the
contrary because you refuse to look for evidence
to the contrary or give it any attention when
it’s presented to you. Ask somebody what Orwell
said about orthodoxy.
Also, your ill-natured spitings are liberally and
quite revealingly peppered with references to
‘power’. You have an obsession with the word. It
has an iconic symbolism for you. It has so leaked
into your discourse that you even refer to it
obliquely (Putin strong like bull). It has become
a defining characteristic, not only of your
fabricated, pseudo-journalistic ’street’ style,
but of your sneering, bullying attitude too.
When your ego pulls you back, make very sure all letters and punctuation are in the right place.
January 2nd, 2023
Happy New Year to you, illodiini. And I appreciate that feeding the troll is unwise. Savagely beating the troll is sport, however.
January 2nd, 2023
Troll Definition : a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content.
@ Caesar963 that is exactly what you have been doing all along.
Caesar963 wrote: Uh, Stalin died in ‘53 - that’s 69 yrs ago (that’s the number you’d love to do with Vlad)…
Is this a writing of a mature and serious person?
Happy New Year to all including Caesar963.
January 2nd, 2023
Webby1933 - More sleazy evasion. Now how did I know that’d happen? Where do you source all of these alternative facts?
“all the countries Putin’s destroyed…America” - Uh, you do realise that Putin is a lonely guy, & that America is a country, right? That these are different entities with no equivalence? No? Oh, just more of your weaponised stupidity then.
“Not one fact. Ever.” - That’s your “style” yes - that there were/are no Russian human rights abuses, genocide-denial, that Stalin was off the scene “90 yrs ago” - that Ukraine wasn’t invaded, no acknowledgement of the Holodomor, and on & nauseatingly on…
“Truth” - You mean Russia Today & your Hate Sites? Gotcha.
“you are a truth-seeking, considered , well informed individual.” - Aw, thanks.
“Putin’s no more left wing” - Yet any who criticise him are right wing? Well done.
“You have not the faintest idea of his wealth” - Why don’t you tell everyone, y’know, how poor your palatial idol is? You believe he’s a poverty-stricken man of the people President For Life, eh? With very nice watches, a vulgar palace, & an entire country’s assets at his disposal. Would you believe absolutely anything? Want to buy a lovely bridge?
“not remotely interested in the facts behind the propaganda” - Your mantra. Is this just a monologue within your unusually small & tight cranium?
“Unleash the nukes.” - Is this your actual fantasy?
“I have to watch my spelling now?” - And the rest! Some elementary conceptual comprehension would be welcome as well. Yes, watch your spelling. When you’re dropping clangers like “Al Quida” & “ceasar” it’s merely emblematic of your total incoherence & confusion.
“I didn’t care to check the spelling on Al Qaeda. Why should I? It was written in haste” - Thanks for that revealing insight into your “thought” process! That you’re again “not remotely interested in the facts.”
And your “ever-more demented and desperate repetitions of the same prejudices & propaganda,” of course. Priceless.
“You only believe the established narrative” - So, Russian state media (entirely independent as you believe) does not have an “established narrative” then? Why don’t you enthrall us further with your media acumen?
“orthodox world view” - Russian orthodox, yeah.
“you refuse to look for evidence to the contrary or give it any attention when it’s presented to you.” - Evidence? You imagine that what you’ve been doing here is presenting evidence? Abundant evidence of your ignorance, true enough.
“Spitings?” - Ah, here!
“bullying attitude” - Yeah, Putin really hates bullying. His very first despotic diktat was to ban it.
You’re so easy, like a malfunctioning wind-up prop bot. “Putin bank accounts strong like bull!”
Sorry to take you away from your new year marathon of Putin-power onanism again, sport. Keeps you off the streets, I suppose…
January 2nd, 2023
How Loewe can you go?
Happy New Year Loewe, baby.
Although you are a persistent anti-Semitic troll, so your sudden performance of principle is not very persuasive.
“Uh, Stalin died in ‘53 - that’s 69 yrs ago (that’s the number you’d love to do with Vlad)” - It’s funny because it’s true.
January 2nd, 2023
Noam Chomsky, who is a Jew, had often criticized Israel for its treatment of the Palestinians, this will make him a persistent anti-Semitic troll, right?
If you can’t grow up, then it is OK. But we can’t take you seriously from now on. According to you we are all trolls, on KGB payroll and Putin lovers.
Such a mature and well informed person.
January 2nd, 2023
You can’t use Chomsky to buttress your anti-Semitism. It’s just another transparent, Loewe-down ploy. He is also an extreme ideologue; for ideologues, everything is filtered through their narrow ideology. Your happy annus sentiments didn’t really stand the test of time either.
“According to you we are all trolls, on KGB payroll & Putin lovers.” - Well, you said it.
January 2nd, 2023
Narrow ideology?? He is the most cited person after Bible.
Sorry, we can’t take you seriously anymore.
January 2nd, 2023
How does citation make an extreme ideology broad? What are you talking about? Mao & Lenin are also cited to a quite sickening extent. Yes, narrow, extreme ideologues.
January 2nd, 2023
I must say watching caesar963 evacuate his bowels all over this page over the festive period really has made it one to remember. Magic!
Also: can anyone think of any other audiobooks that will get him frothing?- I’ll see what I can find ;)
As always, happy 2023 and Free Palestine!
January 2nd, 2023
Every1 knows you love people evacuating their bowels over you, FreeP, you don’t need to push that hard. That’s your primary function, after all!
However, you still haven’t explained why you also get diamond-hard for a human rights abuser & genocide?
Moreover, your excited arousal at the murder of Ukrainian children?
January 3rd, 2023
++++
January 3rd, 2023
Symptoms of a narcissistic personality disorder:
An unrealistic sense of self-importance. Check.
A belief that they are superior. Check.
A belief that they and their opinions are more valuable and that others’ are less worthy of their attention. Check.
A high expectation of preferential treatment. If they don’t get it, they get angry. Check.
Inability to accept others’ opinions. Check.
Gaslighting. Trying to make people feel stupid for their opinions. Check. And Double check.
January 3rd, 2023
Sorry, we can’t take you seriously anymore.
January 3rd, 2023
Again, you’re self-describing. Everyone gets your condition (your hysterical anger, etc.), so that’s an exercise in redundancy.
For instance, your inability to accept others’ opinions - to reverse that for a moment, your own opinions aren’t your own. They come straight from your bot playbook. Precisely the same garbage bot talking points are all over the net. You can’t form independent opinions. Like all ideologues, you’re merely told what to repeat.
Each time you’re challenged on something that might be off-script, you desperately evade, or clumsily flounder in a transparent effort at distraction. You’re a tragicomic omnishambles, Wobbly.
However, it’d be cowardly to start blaming your brainless bot script for all your own grotesque errors here. As an “adult” you ought to have the courage to own them yourself.
January 3rd, 2023
As Loewe says, taking you seriously is a complete impossibility.
January 3rd, 2023
That is SO funny. Irony just took a back flip off a high board and splattered itself at the bottom of an empty pool.
we all know Loewe is referring to you, Seezer.
January 3rd, 2023
But, but - look at the sequence!
You bots couldn’t organise an X in a Y.
January 3rd, 2023
You have proven yourself on this page to your own detriment and it was well-deserved.
Sorry, we can’t take you seriously anymore.
Still, happy 2023 to all.
January 3rd, 2023
…thanks for your continued good wishes, which are heartily reciprocated.
So, I can’t be taken seriously - by toxic prop bots, who beat off to tyrants who murder children? Say it ain’t so, Loewe!
January 3rd, 2023
Sorry, we can’t…
January 3rd, 2023
So, I can’t be taken seriously - by toxic prop bots, who beat off to tyrants who murder children?
Loewe’s immediate response: Sorry, we can’t…
Absolutely priceless. That’s the standard of intelligence & humanity on display here, folks. Talk about shooting yourself in both feet.
January 3rd, 2023
Do your cynical Loewe wishes for the new year also extend to all of Putin’s victims, their parents & families? Because, being actual humans, they might just spit in your hypocritical face. Fair warning.
January 3rd, 2023
Sorry, we…
January 3rd, 2023
(You sound like a malfunctioning bot there!)
You should really apologise to all the victims.
January 3rd, 2023
Sorry,…
January 3rd, 2023
When the Ego lands it finds itself so full of poop it can’t get off the ground again.
January 3rd, 2023
Ironic thanks for that glimpse into your private life there, Wobbly1933.
January 3rd, 2023
And don’t try to virtue signal your caring nature. You’re a gaslighting egotist. Not one word about Yemen. Ever. Are those children the wrong colour for you?
January 3rd, 2023
When one opposes genocide & human rights abuses, it’s a seamless garment - one opposes all genocide & human rights abuses. In Yemen, Ukraine, China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran, Ireland - everywhere.
However, you “people” cannot condemn all human rights abuses because you support many of them & deny others. Why is that so difficult to comprehend? Oh wait, it’s you…
January 3rd, 2023
It seems to me that people who always want to have the last word think by doing so they’re somehow “winning” the conversation or argument.
Assuming a natural right to the last word is a form of self-aggrandizement and may also reflect a deep insecurity from within.
The likelihood is the person just habitually wants to “win”, regardless if they are losing face and this is some form of compulsion and loss of control.
I know Caesar963 always like to have the last word in conversations, however it won’t change my opinion because sorry, we can’t…
January 3rd, 2023
I’m under no illusion that you can be deprogrammed, Loewe, your conditioning has advanced to breaking point. Plus, you’d have to have a “mind” to change in the first instance.
Moreover, you essentially admitted above that you are a toxic prop bot, who beats off to tyrants who murder children. The prosecution rests, m’lud (after you hanged yourself, of course.)
Also, stop trying to get the last word in, Mr. Zero Self-Awareness!
January 3rd, 2023
Classic narcissist behaviour. Give yourself a grandiose name and dehumanise those who disagree with you by lying about their motives and calling them ‘bots’ and ‘trolls’.
January 3rd, 2023
@caesar - You should leave webfoot and lowlife to their circle jerk. I’m sure responding to their inane babble serves no particular purpose. And they probably get compensated for their boot-licking. Russia is really an inferior nation. Do you need more proof of that, my friend?
January 3rd, 2023
Self-evidently, they certainly shouldn’t be representing themselves, illodiini. Multiple own goals, and then they keep digging. Not the sharpest “tools” in the box.
January 3rd, 2023
Sorry, but we can’t…
January 3rd, 2023
Ah here, Wobbly1933! Lying about your motives? You obviously can’t condemn all genocide & human rights violations. You support or deny many genocides & human rights violations You prove that yourself, and I observe it. You lay bare your own sick motivations. You slavishly support a despotic, corrupt, anti-democratic regime, and try to distract from its atrocities.
For example: the book is about Putin’s invasion of Ukraine - you try to pivot away to anything else, including the Yemen atrocities. The colour of the people there being another sleazy obsession for you.
“Give yourself a grandiose name” - You’ve never seen Planet of the Apes? Clash with your Putin onanism sessions?
You dehumanise victims of human rights abuses.
You are quite clearly a trollish prop bot. You don’t only fit the profile to a trollish “t” - you define it.
January 3rd, 2023
…and your fellow Loewe bot is manifestly broken. It’s hilariously stuck on repeat.
See the quality?
January 3rd, 2023
Lying again. and again with the bot stuff. You’re so deluded you aren’t even aware you’re stuck on repeat.
January 3rd, 2023
The “bot” thing is merely a factual observation (I know, I know, you hate those).
It’s certainly brutally revealing that you regard it as “virtue signalling” when a person condemns the murder of children. Of all children, regardless of colour, which you are disgustingly obsessed with.
January 3rd, 2023
Come on now Seezer. Feigning compassion is a classic symptom of narcissistic PD. And so is attributing your own faults to others. Narcissists have low empathy and poor anger control when they’re not given the recognition their ‘genius’ deserves. You’ve exhibited these traits time and time again.
Even illodini has seen it. But he likes it.
You’re busted Cease.Yet you keep coming back for the last word. Guess what that indicates……
January 3rd, 2023
…that you’re a classic narcissist, lacking any self-awareness or restraint? Yeah, everyone sees you, Wobbly1933. You can put your little Luger away.
Nice to see you working on your orthography & grammar. Also, your continuing, if futile, exploration of your mental pathologies.
So, you can’t imagine anyone disapproving of the murder of children, because you take such obvious pleasure in cheerleading child murder, as demonstrated by your Putin support? Isn’t that psychopathy, in addition to your narcissism? P’haps Daddy (Putin) issues thrown into your psychosexual stew of dysfunction?
January 3rd, 2023
And point proven as the tyrannical little narcissist swings back into action. He’ll go on and on and on and on.
January 3rd, 2023
2 toxic bots - both with zero self-awareness. And Daddy issues. A Putin fanboy whining about tyranny? Ah, now.
January 3rd, 2023
And on and on and on. Cease and desist Seezer. You are not increasing the store of human knowledge. Not even illodini is reading it.
Please. For all our sakes. Keep on embarrassing yourself. It’s wonderful to watch.
January 3rd, 2023
Do you submit all of your online self-humiliations to Bot Central? And then get a pathetic Putin pat on your pate?
January 3rd, 2023
This is a question that was posed recently on Quora.It can be found on Google:
Why are narcissists so persistent? Why don’t they take no as an answer?
Because they cannot stop. Their ego won’t allow it.
January 3rd, 2023
It figures that you’re orgasmically botting on Quora as well! Brilliant.
Do you receive a beating when you can’t get anyone to swallow the poisoned Putin Kool-Aid? Wouldn’t that be like beating the shyte out of shyte, Wobbly?
January 3rd, 2023
Refresh the page and there he is again! Like a cat licking its scrotum.
Why do narcissists get so obsessed?
Because people will not recognise how special they are.
January 3rd, 2023
Thanks for another inner-self reveal, Wobbly. Duly noted.
Ugh, you’re botting down the walls, Wobbly. Botting everyone into submission, like a Putin invasion is supposed to do. What if everyone just agreed with you - would that make you stop? Give you a narcissistic bot-promotion? If everyone agreed to check out your “Der Stürmer-ski” site - where you always get your truthiness from? Would that finally make you, er, happy? (Well, relatively.)
January 3rd, 2023
A thicker block of words this time. Does he imagine somebody’s reading it?“
I’m beginning to feel sorry for him now.This is extraordinary behaviour
January 3rd, 2023
No, I’m pretty sue you’re essentially illiterate, now that you mention it. Wobbly when faced with a book: “But it’s a thick block of words, Ma!”
January 3rd, 2023
“pretty sure” of course, so don’t panic Wobbly. It’s not like it’s an “Al Quida” or anything.
January 4th, 2023
Seezer has not got Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder has got him.
The proof is in (the words of) the pudding.
January 4th, 2023
@webfoot - You should join the Russian’s special military operation in Ukraine. I hear good things about it!
January 4th, 2023
@ceasar you sound like a clown who likes to argue for the sake of arguing. @Webby1948 has made cogent arguments and you have failed repeatedly to counter because its impossible to argue with the truth.
January 4th, 2023
dave - Wobbly1933 has consistently failed to demonstrate any understanding, and can only present jaded bot talking points.
Each time he’s challenged, he evades, or clumsily tries to distract.
The reason he cannot present any real arguments is that his posture is based on the bot playbook. Exactly the same garbage bot talking points can be observed all across the net. No independent arguments. Like all ideological stooges, he’s merely told what to repeat.
He cannot condemn all genocide & human rights abuses, only those of the “other side.” It’s like the Cold War is stuck on repeat in his head.
He supports the atrocities & abuses of his “side.”
Read him & truly weep.
He slavishly supports a despotic, corrupt, anti-democratic regime, & tries to distract from its atrocities.
In that connexion: the book is about Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, & he tries to pivot away to anything else, including the Yemen atrocities. The colour of the people there being another sleazy obsession for him.
He routinely dehumanises victims of human rights abuses by denying their suffering & misdirection.
It is indeed impossible to argue with mindless, persistent propaganda sourced from the Russian regime, true enough. War is Peace - that kind of thing.
January 4th, 2023
Wobbly1933 - So, people can’t be right when they disagree with you (your ideology; your alternative facts; your mindless, received con theories)? Yeah, that’s perfectly rational.
January 4th, 2023
Sorry, we still can’t take you seriously.
January 4th, 2023
Hey Lowly! You essentially admitted that you are a toxic prop bot, who beats off to tyrants who murder children.
Consequently, you can only be taken seriously - as a serious risk to children.
January 4th, 2023
Sorry, we just can’t…
January 4th, 2023
I know you can’t, Lowly, but you’ve just gotta try to complete a coherent sentence. Everyone’s rooting for you.
January 4th, 2023
Sorry, we are unable…
January 4th, 2023
You’re unable, incapable, incompetent - everyone knows, Low!
However, you’ve got to try to stop pleasuring your lonely, isolated self to tyrants who murder children. Apart from the ethical dimension, it’s really antisocial. Even for a broken botski.
January 4th, 2023
Sorry, we are incapable of…
January 4th, 2023
(Fap Fap Fap!) - Stop that, Low! You’re incapable of restraining yourself at the mention of your beloved dictator, Putin. Get over your power worship!
January 5th, 2023
Seizure963 has quite clearly, not listened to Benjamin Abelow’s well reasoned account.
He believes he knows better than that author.
He is a narcissist who cannot bear to have withheld,
the deference his superiority deserves. It is impossible to engage him in any meaningful argument because he has no regard for truth; all he wants is to be victorious. He will lie, evade, ignore questions he cannot answer, and resort to insult to overcome his opponent. In any debate he will seek only to belittle, and by any means possible. If he cannot argue with knowledge he will endeavour to maintain or attain the upper hand by resorting to evasions, lies, and downright ridicule.
He has an overweening desire to impress with his knowledge but when he is unsuccessful, his lies are manifold, his evasions plentiful, his responses childish.
For example, he has resorted to calling those who question the current prevalent narrative regarding the origins of the Ukraine conflict , ‘tyrant lovers’, ‘bots’ and ‘trolls’, accusing them of having no compassion for victims either of war or of famine. He makes no mention of Yemen, Syria, Libya or Iraq. They are American conflicts. Unquestionable.
He uses compassion merely as a convenient tool of ridicule, and as a weapon of argument. Thus, he asserts that anyone who does not unreservedly subscribe to the current Western narrative surrounding the Ukraine war is complicit with the excesses of the Stalinist regime 90 years previously.
It is a false and breathtaking leap of reasoning to associate the one with the other; it seems beyond him to consider that it is possible to feel compassion for the victims of the Holodomor while comprehending that the current conflict is occurring to a different background in a different epoch. And has arisen largely as a result of the actions of NATO and the gullibility of Russia in taking the USA at its word.
Of course, it is not beyond his wit to understand. It is a ploy.
Undoubtedly, the man is a narcissist. Narcissists often fall into depression when realising their status is not as high as they believe it should be. I don’t wish ill upon him, but he can be quite cattish, and scratches when challenged.
Any compassion the man professes is on display only to assert his dominance with superior morality. It is there further to demean and undermine those he calls ‘bots’ and ‘trolls’ because they dare to think differently to most of the western media. Freedom of speech only goes one way. He seems unaware that though the terminology may vary, he is only following the historic curve of past conflicts when seeking to dehumanise those who present any but the orthodox view. The next step will be to call any who speak out, ‘traitors’. He probably has done, somewhere. I’d stopped reading him, till I cam upon his latest. And I wanted to put the record straight.
He is gaslighting when he claims I have evaded points he has made. He has made none, other than Putin is a thug who cannot possibly have a valid reason for invading Ukraine. He has supported this point of view by hysterically welding together modern and Stalinist Russia, and refusing to see them as separate entities.
Seek to understand the true causes of this conflict and according to Seizure963 you’re an apologist for The Terror and The Great Famine.
All evasions too, have been his, and are further evidence of a narcisstic disorder. The narcissist blames others for faults that are quite clearly his own, and does it without shame or pause.
He is also trailing the claim that there are ‘bots’ and ‘trolls’ around audiobook bay, spreading pro-Russian propaganda.
Few are more vicious than an uncovered narcissist.
January 5th, 2023
Again, no substance in evidence. Indeed, you have demonstrated no understanding whatsoever, & you have made no coherent arguments. What you offer is the same sickening pro-Putin muck which is flooding the internet. Identical talking points trotted out.
“no regard for truth” - Vacuous sanctimony from a bot who can only repeat Russian propaganda. Nauseating.
“lie, evade, ignore questions he cannot answer, & resort to insult to overcome his opponent” - Acutely pointed self-description (see - all of your risible discharges above). As demonstrated, it’s only necessary to quote your own self-refuting absurdities back to you in order to defeat you. Not a difficult task, when all you can evidence is your own callous ignorance.
“He makes no mention of Yemen, Syria, Libya or Iraq” - More obvious lies. I did something you refused to do: I condemned all human rights abuses & genocides - specifically condemning the atrocities in Yemen. Let’s hear you finally & honestly condemn Putin’s atrocities & repression - at home & abroad, including supporting the Syrian dictator? You won’t, because you demonstrated that the atrocities & genocides of your “side” are not to be condemned, but supported. You refuted yourself - even before anyone else could do the job.
“‘tyrant lovers’, ‘bots’ & ‘trolls’, accusing them of having no compassion for victims of war or famine” - Yes, because you refuse to condemn them, & you actually defend them.
“uses compassion” - Your language is that of a sociopath. You only reveal yourself further. You yourself demonstrate no compassion, given the grotesque horrors which you support.
“Stalinist regime 90 yrs previously” - The fact of this other tyrant still being around in 1953 serves to expose your mathematical inabilities also. To go with your historical, ethical, political, cognitive & factual failings. An ever-expanding list.
“he asserts that anyone who does not unreservedly subscribe to current West narrative surrounding the Ukraine war is complicit w the excesses of Stalinist regime” - You’re not very good with facts or language, are you? Where is this “assertion” made?
the “excesses” of the Stalinist regime - Dear God. Your unutterably sleazy euphemism for genocide, planned famines, concentration camps, slave state coercion, mass torture, & untold atrocities? You are truly a disgusting individual.
“It is a false & breathtaking leap of reasoning to assoc one w the other” - And it is your own tactic, because you can only straw man the “Other.”
“feel compassion for victims of Holodomor while comprehending that current conflict is occurring to a diff background in a diff epoch.” - You admit that you cannot feel compassion for Ukrainian victims, the very descendants of those upon whom that planned famine was inflicted? Merely one of your “excesses?” Absolutely stunning.
“a result of the actions of NATO” - So, NATO has brutally invaded & annexed parts of Ukraine, & murdered all of those Ukrainian children & civilians? That’s seriously your contention (or that of your absurd script)?
“can be quite cattish, scratches when challenged” - Of course, all you do is throw insults, given that you have no substance.
“superior morality” - You’re so deluded that you “think” condemning the murder of children - & all human rights violations - is solely the preserve of “superior moral” sentiment? It’s the bare minimum for a human being - something that, for you, is demonstrably unattainable on the evidence you yourself offer.
“dare to think differently to most western media” - The standard delusion of such characters. Western media, unlike that of strictly controlled, pro-Putin Russian media, amounts to a dastardly conspiracy against him. Textbook.
“he is following the historic curve of past conflicts seeking to dehumanise those who present any but orthodox view” - See: all those within Russia who stood against all of the oppressive Russian regimes - right up to the present tyranny. Dehumanised & savagely repressed. But you can’t admit this.
“next step will be to call any who speak out, ‘traitors’” - Like the brave Russians who oppose Putin’s brutal despotism, you mean?
“I wanted to put the record straight” - An ironic Putin prop bot! Wonder of wonders.
“hysterically welding together” - You’re comparing Putin (not a country) to America (a country) & absurdly trying to spin that an individual clearly has less of a record than a centuries-old nation. Like all your other bot ploys: meaningless.
Russians have ever existed under such appalling regimes. But you could not know that.
“an apologist for The Terror & The Great Famine.” - You’re merely the latest iteration of useful id!ot, who would have slavishly defended past genocides & horrors, up to & including Afghanistan, Chechnya, Syria, the attacks on Ukraine & all internal Russian repression. Because you can’t offer even the slightest criticism for Putin’s years of human rights violations or corruption, let alone the current brutal, id!otic invasion. Such critique is just not in the bot script. Which us why you’re utterly & immediately dismissed as a transparently evasive prop bot. An imbecilic tool. A cheerleader for child murder.
“Putin is a thug who cannot possibly have a valid reason for invading Ukraine” (a sovereign country) - Spot on (if only by mistake).
“He is also trailing claim that there are ‘bots’ & ‘trolls’ around ABB, spreading pro-Russian propaganda.” - “What an absurd idea!” (said the sleazy bot.)
“Few are more vicious than an uncovered narcissist” - Singin’ your own song there, Wobbly1933. A failure who stumps for child murder “without shame or pause.”
January 5th, 2023
In fairness, I see that you’re at least repeating some of the names of the atrocities & genocides which I earlier referenced & condemned. That, at any rate, is progress, given that it’s a reasonable certainty that you had never heard of them before (in light of the shocking lack of historical awareness so far evidenced). If I’ve forced you to, at last, glimpse these disturbing realities, then that constitutes some small measure of progress.
While it might at the moment be merely a ruse, to present your talking points in a more plausible fashion, you may, at some point, return to the actual history in order to finally learn the truth of it. Following that, you may one day be prepared to confront the reality of the Putin regime, & all its abuses. These terrible historical events ought not just be names alone.
I only wish that all bots could be compelled to finally confront at least some truth.
January 5th, 2023
Sorry, but we really can’t…
January 5th, 2023
“You’re an apologist for The Terror and The Great Famine” Well said @ Webby1948.
Saying Noam Chomsky is jut as much quoted as Lenin and Mao is the wildest thing I have ever heard around here.
Hitler and Goebbels are also widely quoted but the question is for which purposes.
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.” -Stephen Hawking
This is a good allegory to what is happening here.
January 5th, 2023
How do you expect to be taken seriously, Lowly, when you yourself essentially admitted above that you are a toxic prop bot, who beats off to tyrants who murder children?
And where precisely did you demonstrate any knowledge?!
Yes, you did try to conceal your anti-Semitism behind Chomsky. And I properly condemned you for it. I do so again. “Saying Chomsky is jut (sic) as quoted as Lenin & Mao” - Another lie. I said that “Mao & Lenin are also cited to a quite sickening extent” & they are also “narrow, extreme ideologues.”
You: “Narrow ideology? He is most cited person after Bible” (not true either, btw, but immaterial) & I responded: “How does citation make an extreme ideology broad?” Then, having no response, you disappeared, & then later mindlessly repeated a formula of words (your skill level).
Merely citing someone does not automatically mean they are being endorsed. Your ass-ertion here is based on an ignorance of academic citation. Their linguistic theory may be being critiqued/refuted in a paper, for inst.
Please finally learn about the Great Purge and the famines in Russia & China. Also learn about the Putin regime - then you might stop worshipping & being an apologist for power, brutal tyranny, and the “boot stamping on a human face - forever.” I want to see you develop past this, but you are resistant.
January 6th, 2023
Sorry, it is just beyond common sense to take you seriously.
January 6th, 2023
Surprise surprise the woke supporting Putin’s aggression. Put it with their mysoginy (apparently saying a woman is a woman is “offensive” even a crime) their anti-semitism (I wonder who thats to support….and any amount of other lunacies ? I see “Caesar” is at the centre of such as per….
January 6th, 2023
I seem to be at the centre of…something? A seething mass of something or other? Bad Caesar! Bad!
January 6th, 2023
Predictable to see this confederacy of loony dunces banding together to worship Putin power & brutal tyranny (appropriate apologies to Dean Swift). Just look at the quality. And thickness.
January 6th, 2023
Thus speaks the gaslighting narcissist. The epitome of thick in skin and brain. Who actually sees himself as ‘the true genius’ Swift refers to in that quote.
So Benjamin Abelow and any who do not swallow the propaganda about the causes of this war, are all Woke?
Tucker Carlson’s Woke? Jimmy Dore’s Woke? General Douglas Macgregor’s Woke?
Intercoursingly hilarious.
January 6th, 2023
At least I got you to finally read some Swift as well! As to the rest, you must confront the woke ‘n bold Basileus with your bot script (you’ve got everything confused again). Added bonus: he’s clearly on your cognitive level.
January 6th, 2023
Pray tell, what else are this Tucker Carlson & General Disarray telling you to “think?” Do they expediently buttress your beloved bot script?
January 6th, 2023
Sorry, it would be insane to take you seriously.
January 6th, 2023
…as insane as you yourself admitting to being a toxic prop bot, who masturbates to tyrants who murder children? Once that’s out, you can never take it back, Loewe. Sorry. But that’s who you are now.
January 6th, 2023
Sorry, we will not take you seriously.
January 6th, 2023
Gaslight gaslight gaslight. Pretend to care but appropriate other people’s suffering to make a point and a poor one at that.
Like I’d never Swift. You’ve got diarrhoea of the fingers. Like to whap out your erudition at the merest opportunity.
January 6th, 2023
Just one more thing: Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Dore are at diametrically opposite ends of the political arc.
January 6th, 2023
Turn off the gas, heinrich1933!
“Pretend to care” - the chilling sentiments of a true sociopath - cynically weaponised, to distract from - “other people’s suffering” - which I’ve given you multiple chances to condemn. You callously refuse. The only point upon which you’re consistent.
“Like I’d never Swift” - Yet more incoherence. Try to finally read something, you toxic ignoramus. Are you only on a book site to brutally bot yourself to orgasm?
You’re probably only aroused by some misconception around Gulliver’s Travels - merely because, like your beloved master, Putin, you fantasise about crushing human beings whom you regard as “small.” Again, repellent.
January 6th, 2023
“Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Dore are at diametrically opposite ends of the political arc.” - Meaning they cannot also be simultaneously wrong? Do you have logic in that bot basement of yours? Oy…
January 7th, 2023
‘Turn off the gas, heinrich1933′
There’s the proof of your sociopathy. From your own subconscious.An allusion to the gas chambers.
Proof that with you, care is only a pretence. You find the holocaust a suitable subject for amusement? ‘Turn off the gas’ might have worked. Add ‘heinrich’ and it’s a different thing entirely.
You evidently wish to appropriate that suffering for the sake of making a jibe too.
Professing compassion is only a game to you. You have no emotional capability save the anger you feel when you think your ‘genius’ is not recognised and you are being ridiculed. You are impervious to emotions most people feel but it suits your purpose to affect them. Phrases such as ‘grotesque horrors’ fall off your fingers but you use them with no sense of their meaning.You are a loud because you’re empty. Repellent indeed.
“Like I’d never Swift”. A missed word you light upon like a gleeful child. But only because you think you’ve made a point.There’s no other purpose to it. I’m sure you felt excitement when you saw it.
‘Meaning they cannot also be simultaneously wrong? Do you have logic in that bot basement of yours?’ - Evidently you are too dumb to understand that resistance to propaganda is not a one-party issue. People from all sides are seeing through the crap.
You have a habit of deliberate misunderstanding to attempt to belittle and deceive. It doesn’t work but again, it scores high on the narcissist spectrum.
Arrogance, conceit and lies should be challenged when met.You provide me with many opportunities. I see you have abandoned all pretence that those who oppose your view on Ukraine are somehow complicit with the suffering of the people of Stalinist Russia. But your ‘heinrich1933′ is more revealing than you expected.
January 7th, 2023
Yes, turn off the gas, heinrich1933 - a direct ref to your genocidal, ideological regimes, which you’re a useful id!ot for.
“holocaust a suitable subject for amusement” - As an anti-Semite, who believes the “Jeeewz!” are controlling the media (like your buddy, Basileus) you would’ve received Schindler’s List as a broad comedy.
“emotions most people feel” - But not you, as a supporter & cheerleader for child murder.
Again, & without more sleazy attempts at distraction, prove me wrong by condemning the murders of Ukrainian children & civilians as a result of Putin’s brutal invasion. But you won’t, because you don’t care. Exposed again.
“resistance to propaganda” - which you’re wholly unable to evidence.
“Arrogance, conceit & lies should be challenged when met” - which is what everyone who rejects your bloodthirsty bot prop is doing, heinrich.
“complicit with suffering of people of Stalinist Russia” - Given that you’re an inhuman useful id!ot for the Russian regime now, how much more so then? Different year, same tankie mentality. You would’ve denied the Holodomor as well. Russia has ever subsisted under such tyrants, as I explained.
“People from all sides are seeing through the crap” - By which you mean that you’re incessantly troll-trawling the net, desperately looking for other characters who might also support Putin’s brutal invasion & vile human rights abuses. Here’s a thought: why not canvass the opinions of Ukrainian victims? Or is that just too reasonable for you, being a demented troll bot? Why do Russia’s neighbours tend to regard Putin as a menace? Does that indicate anything for you? Of course not.
None of these issues can you address, trapped deep in your ideological bunker. As abundantly evidenced, you can only try to transparently distract & divert.
And in that context, over to you, heinrich1933…
January 7th, 2023
Now that I refer back, you are absolutely obsessed with gas. You keep mentioning gas. Profoundly sinister, heinrich. You view it as some kind of solution? Like the evil tyrants & ideologies you worship? Truly repellent stuff.
January 7th, 2023
“Like I’d never Swift” - Hey, you’re not trying to present that as if it were an isolated error, are you? And the rest, heinrich! Your rancid rubbish is literally littered with contemptible clangers.
However, “Like I’d never Swift” is particularly hilarious.
What precisely, asks the intrigued reader, would he never Swift? Is this an iron principle for him, one from which he’d never depart? Ought we never Swift also? That’s the tenet (sorry “tenor”) of opinion, at any rate. You great demented bozo.
January 7th, 2023
Hilarious stuff. I would not want to have your energy bill. Plainly you’re not going ever to listen, because you’re a narcissist.You will continue to stonewall and bait, because you’re a narcissist. You only want to seem superior, because you’re a narcissist. You demand from others that which you are incapable of yourself, because you are a narcissist. You are a perfect example of a man with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, without the Personality.
It’s useless continuing to feed you.I’ve bested you in every argument and you keep insisting on having the last word.
No one can take you seriously any more.Snarl away.
January 7th, 2023
“energy bill” - Of course, your idol did want to “switch off” most of Eur, but the continent has seen off plenty of such tyrants before.
“I’ve bested u in every argum” (Please see above. Read ‘em & weep!)
No argument, because, as observed, you failed to present a single coherent argument, & failed to answer a solitary question. All you had was ranting evasion, like this last.
In that context: why refuse to canvass the opinions of Ukrainian victims, instead of other tankies? Your most extreme echo chamber? Why do Russia’s neighbours regard Putin as a menace, forcing them into NATO? On a related point, why are you so clearly filled with such hysterical hatred? Why support mass murder - for any purported “reason?”
In any event, please do finally learn about these issues. Don’t remain voluntarily imprisoned in a Cold War bunker of delusion, deceit & fear. The world doesn’t need any more of such hatred.
January 7th, 2023
Sorry, it is incomprehensible to take you seriously.
January 7th, 2023
You’ve clearly been at the thesaurus, Lowly.
Although, I’ll give you a chance & ask you some of the same questions (almost certainly there’ll be a failure to respond, of course).
Why refuse to canvass the opinions of Ukrainian victims? Why do Russia’s neighbours regard Putin as a menace, thereby forcing them into NATO?
Why are you so clearly filled with such hysterical hatred for the victims? Why support mass murder - for any purported “reason?”
(These are reasonable questions, so my hopes aren’t stellar here…)
January 7th, 2023
Sorry, it is nonsensical to take you seriously.
January 8th, 2023
You prove my point, Low. You couldn’t answer a single question. Predictable, but it proves that you worship brute power.
January 8th, 2023
It is truly astonishing that the inimical nature of Ceasar(sic)963 has been taken seriously for so long on Audiobook bay. To engage with this narcissist is to end up being mired in a toxic swamp of ever more bizarre allegations and counter allegations. Return criticism in any fashion once he has criticised and insulted you, and he will quote the phrase back at you in the manner so redolent of Pee Wee Herman: ‘I know you are; but what am I?’ (Just witness his last exchange.)
It is all so tedious, so wearing. And so predictable.
Ignore Ceaser(sic)963. He is poison.
What’s betting he wants the last word?
January 8th, 2023
@lowlife & webfoot - Take a wild guess why Finland (my homecountry) and Sweden recently decided to apply for NATO membership. You two give stupidity a bad reputation.
January 8th, 2023
Sorry, we shall not take you seriously.
January 8th, 2023
Quod erat demonstrandum, and then some, Lowly.
January 8th, 2023
You’re proving yourself to be an entirely ineducable prop bot, heinrich1933. You truly r (sic). On a related point, you’d also bore the shyte out of shyte, which is probably the greatest achievement in your, er, “life.”
Irony: your somehow sanctimonious, pseudo-medical abuse (to complain about abuse) is not an argument. You don’t know what discourse is, & have failed throughout to make a single coherent argument. You cannot answer questions - you can only make transparent attempts at distraction. Your many puerile errors are “hysterically” laughable. You have piled hysterical hatred upon bigoted rage, like Pelion upon Ossa (never mind, durrr).
“bizarre allegations?” - that you support the tyrannical Putin in his brutal invasion of Ukraine, & the murder of children & civilians? That you don’t understand that this forces Russia’s sovereign neighbours into NATO for some measure of protection? That you support all of his human rights violations? Of course you have done this throughout, heinrich. This is your insane posture.
And you will continue to try to evade all of these issues & more, won’t you? Well done, Wobbly the tankie engine. And stop trying to last word it, unless you finally have something insightful & true to say. Why not condemn all human rights abuses, such as the murder of Ukrainian children? Can you do that? Or just more dishonest waffle to divert?
January 8th, 2023
And your most erudite reference is someone called Pee Wee Herman! Do you have all of his incomparable works on your shelves? Beside Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, and of course, Putin? Ideologues are the easiest. No capacity for thought. Go on then, heinrich, party like it’s 1933 for you…
January 8th, 2023
Sorry, it is unreal to take you seriously.
January 8th, 2023
I have no interest in any further rantings of the unconscionable narcissist Ceaser963(sic).
But I did write: What’s betting he wants the last word?
January 8th, 2023
How very dare you - like I’d never Swift as well! I’ll bloody well Swift if I want to!
Predictably avoiding questions for umpteenth time (Check!)
Trying to get last word (Check!)
Who do you think you’re distracting anyway? You’re called out each time you do it, heinrich (which is every time). It is known. You try to dodge like a sleazy politician, only without the career. Or the semi-coherent sentences.
“He demolishes all of our demented prop bot talking points! Why is he taken seriously, & not us persistent, sleazy bots?! And we’re everywhere - ‘lying’ in wait!” - Yeah, kind of answers itself, that one…
January 9th, 2023
Quod erat demonstrandum.
I have no interest in any further rantings of the unconscionable narcissist Ceaser963(sic).
But I did write: What’s betting he wants the last word?
January 9th, 2023
Sorry, it is unintelligible to take you seriously.
January 10th, 2023
At least I’m introducing you pair to some new words! (If not, sadly, any understanding. You merely produce vacuous psittacisms. Thus “I have no interest!” - then he copies me precisely. Brilliant own goals.)
Disturbingly, it’s emerging that Loewe is actually the “brains” of your desperately confused, dishevelled little outfit. And by outfit, I mean nat socialist uniform. You should’ve brought more bots - a lot more bots.
January 10th, 2023
Sorry, it is unfathomable to take you seriously.
January 10th, 2023
A Putin bot - a worshipper of brute power & massive corruption; and a cheerleader for child murder & human rights abuses, “can’t take caesar seriously.” Hmmm, looks like another win-win for ol’ caesar there. Probably doesn’t merit a Triumph, however, given the appalling quality & low intelligence (room temp IQs!) of my “adversaries.” Not the sharpest tools in the ideologically authoritarian box.
I told you, you needed to bring far more mindless prop bots, a brace of brainless bots was a predictable disaster. Like your beloved invasion of Ukraine.
January 10th, 2023
Sorry, it is inscrutable to take you seriously.
January 10th, 2023
I know, Low, just let it go, all that pain, bigotry & hate…
January 10th, 2023
Also, you have to exercise caution when using a thesaurus. Many of the synonyms which you deploy represent a lapsus linguae. Unsurprising, but still erroneous. Here to help! You are the brain of your nat socialist outfit, after all.
January 10th, 2023
Sorry, it is irrational to take you seriously.
January 10th, 2023
Better, but pedestrian. At least you’re able to take direction - a bit of housetraining, as the man says.
January 10th, 2023
Sorry, it is inconceivable to take you seriously.
January 10th, 2023
No, I think you’ve already used that one. Best to be fresh, eh?
January 11th, 2023
Sorry, it is unimaginable to take you seriously.
January 11th, 2023
Hey, sLoewe, no need to feel so lonely. (The poignant (if hostile) repetition gives it away. A kind of cry for help.) Others are acknowledging you here, so no reason to feel alone. Everyone’s rooting for you to finally get better. Do get out though.
January 11th, 2023
Also, I can’t take a book seriously with a 2.9 rating.
January 12th, 2023
We can not take you seriously.
We shall not take you seriously.
We will not take you seriously.
January 12th, 2023
Now recite the alphabet (properly this time, dammit!)
January 13th, 2023
…because “shall” & “will” are synonyms, and “can not” is an awkward formulation. You’ll learn or die tryin’ Lowly! You have to begin by getting the basics right.
Your schoolboy error was to jump into talking about big boy things like politics. Major fail. But now we’re working on getting you to speak correctly. Teaching you to think & reason will be next. (Oy, that’s gonna be an uphill struggle!)
January 13th, 2023
Sorry, it would be absurd to take you seriously.
January 13th, 2023
…that’s it, keep it short, don’t stray from the formula or get foolishly ambitious. Get to know & love your severe limitations. No talk about politics for you anymore!
January 13th, 2023
Its true that US policies caused this war and not Russian desire for war. US just couldn’t good enough and despite nearly a decade of Russia trying to find ways to prevent this tragic war in Ukraine …Russia was given a choice: Stand up to the US led order or bend the knee to the dictates of the US.
Anyone objective can look at the events that led to war and Russian attempts for peace. Ukraine played with fire and got burned, Ukraine thought it could remain a lapdog of the west in the Russian backyard.
January 13th, 2023
Sorry, it would be ludicrous to take you seriously.
January 14th, 2023
I fear I must agree with Loewe’s immediate assessment of your post, Moac.
January 14th, 2023
We shall not take you seriously.
We can not take you seriously.
We will not take you seriously.
January 14th, 2023
This is amazing.
You can’t help yourself Caesar!
I really wish I agreed with those 2 guys, because they’re winding you up beautifully.
Unfortunately they are still somehow trying to defend Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, which means they are fundamentally, unforgivably wrong.
Funny old life innit.
January 14th, 2023
Unfortunately you are very wrong. No way we are defending Putin here.
What we are saying is: Putin’s aggression toward Ukraine is caused by Western intervention (mainly the US). American foreign policy since the end of the Cold War has consistently led to this outcome that we are witnessing today.
Remember, to understand is not to condone.
January 14th, 2023
…how about to finally condemn child murder & the targetting of civilians in the invasion of a sovereign country by a brutal dictator? No, because you can’t = this means you are condoning & defending. Elementary equation.
Any criticism of Putin, his corrupt, murderous regime, and his brutal invasion & terror of neighbouring countries they immediately attack - with the same bot talking points & misdirection witnessed across this site & across the internet.
A human rights abuser, aggressive invader of neighbouring countries, unconscionable kleptomaniac, poisoner & murderer of journalists & opposition, ruthlessly implacable opponent of democracy. That’s the sleazy power these useful id!ots rush to defend & worship.
Lowly has said that he’s worried about this “weakening Russia to the point of regime collapse” - Perhaps don’t invade sovereign states & try to undermine or bomb them into submission then? Maybe allow actual elections, free press & a democratic opposition in Russia? Pay some of that stolen $70 billion in reparations to his victims? This is honestly the “regime” he wants to defend & maintain? Unbelievable. You couldn’t make it up. Oh wait - he just did. An habitual liar for brute power.
January 14th, 2023
Sorry, it would be farcical to take you seriously.
January 14th, 2023
…thus proving my point.
January 14th, 2023
We shall not take you seriously.
We will not take you seriously.
January 14th, 2023
…or make a valid point, it seems.
January 15th, 2023
Sorry, it would be ridiculous to take you seriously.
January 16th, 2023
…or be coherent…
January 16th, 2023
We will not take you seriously.
We shall not take you seriously.
January 17th, 2023
…or rational…
January 17th, 2023
You shall not be taken seriously.
January 18th, 2023
…or sane!
January 18th, 2023
Sorry, it is unthinkable to take you seriously.
January 18th, 2023
…or thoughtful!
January 19th, 2023
Bad morning, everyone! I hope it hurts to pull another day! Byeee!
January 19th, 2023
More power to you, illodiini. Good morning however to all those on the front line with terrorist despot, Vlad. Bad luck to him & his sleazy, power-worshipping supporters.
January 19th, 2023
Sorry, it is senseless to take you seriously.
January 20th, 2023
…or wit
January 20th, 2023
Sorry, it is futile to take you seriously.
January 20th, 2023
or a clue
January 21st, 2023
Sorry, it is pointless to take you seriously.
January 21st, 2023
…or humanity
January 22nd, 2023
We shall not take you seriously.
We cannot take you seriously.
January 22nd, 2023
…or decency!
January 22nd, 2023
A pattern of needing to get in the last word can be driven by the need to feel better about him/herself by being ‘right,. It can also be a characteristic of narcissism and often reflect self-esteem issues.
January 23rd, 2023
…or intelligence!
January 23rd, 2023
We cannot take you seriously.
We shall not take you seriously.
January 23rd, 2023
…or judgment
January 24th, 2023
Having the last word is closely associated with ego. Egomaniacs always have to have the last word. It gives them a feeling of power, as if they immediate draw all of the power of the person they are communicating with and become powerful due to it.
January 24th, 2023
or insight!
January 25th, 2023
Sorry, it is unreasonable to take you seriously.
January 25th, 2023
or ability
January 26th, 2023
The feeling of wanting to have the last word is short-lived as it is only a state of mind, and most people who have any sense of understanding of human psychology knows that people that do this are only doing it because they feel insecure, competitive, hardheaded and lack confidence often in their own intellect or are in need of covering tracks.
January 26th, 2023
or irony!
January 27th, 2023
Glad this was a popular share! ;)
January 27th, 2023
Ur playing a blinder as per, FP, although it did attract a crapload of mindless, power-worshipping Putinistas & ideologues there.
Not 2 worry, I’ll kick the shyte out of ‘em for ya.
January 27th, 2023
Sorry, it is foolish to take you seriously.
January 27th, 2023
or self-awareness
January 28th, 2023
A person who has to have the last word is fundamentally flawed. Their flaws are for the world to see. They may be charismatic and draw people in, but if you listen to their conversations and look at their posts, you will see a common thread of egocentricity and a need for supremacy.
January 28th, 2023
or perspicacity!
January 29th, 2023
Sorry, it is out of the question to take you seriously.
January 29th, 2023
Given it’s Sunday, I won’t slap u around today. But back 2 the Burns Unit for u tomorrow!
January 30th, 2023
Those who have to have the last word feel uncomfortable when that power is taken away from them and they usually end up fighting in an argument because this has been taken away from them. They lash out and look for ways to rectify this.
January 30th, 2023
…or logic
January 31st, 2023
Digital version of this book is useless, paper version you can still use as toilet paper
January 31st, 2023
Sorry, it is preposterous to take you seriously.
January 31st, 2023
…no, zxcvbn is absolutely correct there. Where are your manners, Lowly? We have a guest!
February 1st, 2023
People with this “disease” usually strive to be the only voice over the people around them. They often never rise to the top in their social milieu, hence they adapt their personal profiles so that they can be seen as “winning” in some area that they feel no one can compete.
February 1st, 2023
…condemning “diseased people” who “never rise to the top in their social milieu” - you really are a fascist Power-worshipping Putinista! You probably want to “liquidate” them all as well. Your mask is off, Lowly! Owned.
February 2nd, 2023
Sorry, it is laughable to take you seriously.
February 2nd, 2023
…again, condemning “diseased people” who “never rise to top in social milieu!” - you are an avowed fascist Putinista. A genocide denier. Your mask’s off, Lowly.
February 3rd, 2023
Their need for respect and to be liked, more so than those around them, usually is their undoing.
February 3rd, 2023
more hate - “diseased people” who “never rise to top in social milieu!” - a confirmed Lowly fascist & genocide denier. Shame on you.
February 4th, 2023
Sorry, we really can’t…
February 4th, 2023
…can’t be a decent human being, you mean. Shame. You choose to hate.
February 6th, 2023
@caesar - Those two would blow Putin in a second if an opportunity would rise. But they’re way too stupid to be his trolls. The gay czar-wanna-be would jolly well use them to clear way through a mine field.
February 6th, 2023
like Stalin’s “commissariat” used to do, to save their American-sourced equipment & vehicles. True enough, that’s how these brutal, genocidal ideologues always “value” life in reality.
Hard to imagine the Lowly fascist & Wobbly1933 having any conceivable use, however (his “diseased peop” who “never rise”).
Convenient orifices for Vlad the Impaler would be about the extent of it!
February 6th, 2023
Taking you seriously is unthinkable.
February 6th, 2023
…you’re a fascist disease, Lowly. You choose to be - you can’t blame others.
February 7th, 2023
Taking you seriously is implausible.
February 7th, 2023
Not today, evil fascist!
February 8th, 2023
Taking you seriously is unlikely.
February 8th, 2023
…weak, fascist, just weak. Stop being a genocide-denier.
February 9th, 2023
Taking you seriously is out of the question.
February 9th, 2023
Stop denying genocide, fascist.
February 10th, 2023
Taking you seriously is imbecilic.
February 11th, 2023
End your hateful Holocaust denial.
February 11th, 2023
Taking you seriously is brainless.
February 11th, 2023
Brainless is your ironic specialism, as with all who deny genocide.
February 12th, 2023
Taking you seriously is mindless.
February 13th, 2023
Denying genocide is evil.
February 13th, 2023
Taking you seriously is absurd.
February 14th, 2023
Still evil
February 14th, 2023
Taking you seriously is ridiculous.
February 15th, 2023
yeah (checks), you’re still evil
February 15th, 2023
Taking you seriously is preposterous.
February 17th, 2023
Genocide denial is indefensible.
February 18th, 2023
Taking you seriously is pointless.
February 20th, 2023
Have the balls to finally admit genocide.
February 20th, 2023
Taking you seriously is senseless.
February 21st, 2023
This comments section still going strong I see….
February 21st, 2023
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
February 23rd, 2023
Wise words of prudent wisdom, illodiini.
And they’re still genocide-denying, Jew-hating fascists, entirely sans testicles…
February 23rd, 2023
“Hitler has only got one ball,
Göring has two but very small,
Himmler is rather sim’lar,
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.”
-and don’t you, guys, go fantasizing about Lil’putin, now…
February 23rd, 2023
It can’t be denied - even wiser words, from another great sovereign nation on the front lines with tyrannical terror.
February 23rd, 2023
Taking you seriously is futile.
February 24th, 2023
Grow a pair & stop denying genocide, you Jew-hating loon.
February 24th, 2023
Taking you seriously is witless.
February 24th, 2023
Thanks for sharing
February 26th, 2023
… And we European, that have nothing against Russia, have been forced to send weapons to ukraina and accepted sanctions that are only damaging ourselves.. But these where the USA plans from the beginning: put Europe against Russia and destroy the Old Continent economy. You have won, damn you! When you’ll stop interfering in other country life? Why I have hundreds of your barraks in my garden and you have not one european barraks in your??!
One day you’ll fall… And I hope to live enough to see that.
March 12th, 2023
@Harpax et al. - I think you’re in denial of your homosexuality. And your feelings toward Lil’putin. With Lowpoint and Webfoot here you should get together and form a circle. You can close your eyes and pretend the other one is Vladimir.
March 12th, 2023
Personally I think that Russia should be anulled as a legitimate country. It has brought nothing but misery to the world the last thousand years.
March 14th, 2023
Instead, the US has only brought peace and prosperity to the world. just ask Iraq (have you found the nerve gases?), Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya and many others, not to mention the coups and interference you have organized in the countries of South America and around the world.
@illodiini, You are a patriot and I understand that you want to defend your state, but consider that perhaps the rest of the planet would be better off without you. Take a plane and come into the world to see what do people think of you…You might be surprised to find out what we think of your “export of democracy”.
And to conclude I think you’re right: I’d rather have a Russian cock in the ass than shake hands with an American.
March 26th, 2023
I’m a Finn and you’re Lil’putin troll. There isn’t a country without spots in its history. US has always been a democracy -sort of, anyway-, while Russia is anything but. Do you read or watch news? Or only some Russian propaganda? Russia is not a country, it’s a pestilence. And like I wrote it should be anulled. There may be decent people living there, but they would be better off in other circumstances.
March 26th, 2023
No, since the covid circus started I stopped sercing news on TV or newspaper, they are only one side government propaganda. I look elsewere to find what is going on
April 2nd, 2023
Harpax- well said, ever since Trump praised and promised how safe the Covid vaccine was I don’t trust ANY OF THEM,and sure, people can blame Fauci, he has a lot to answer, claiming that he was just giving him “bad info,” but Trump always said, he’s the smartest person in the room, never puts his name behind anything that he personally hasn’t overseen or understands 100%, and still does!! https://www.vice.com/en/article/epz33k/trump-vaccine-support
April 3rd, 2023
Thank you. Only trees that bear fruit get stones thrown at them. Good post.
November 26th, 2023
@Khameleon
lmao mic drop
December 24th, 2023
We built it, it’s ours. - Reagan on Panama.
But Russia on Ukraine too. Ukraine was never in the west, and was never an ally.
March 30th, 2024
Thank you
June 19th, 2024
Here’s a fun thing to do.
Google image search ‘Ukrainian Azov Nazi tattoos’. Now go back and read all those sad articles of western writers try (failed) to make those Ukraine Nazis who are 100% hardcore Nationalists and white supremacists, a make over as warm-N-fuzzy Nazis. Anyone who knows about Ukrainian history right up to today, knows all about these Nazi’s.
When you full body tattoos of Nazi symbolism including swastikas and SS lighting bolts, it’s not a boys club. If you condone these guys, don’t tell me you believe in human rights and the rest of that phony left identity package of beliefs. Do the search & LOOK - I dare you. There is NO doubt.
I have yet to meet one of these rabid anti Russia-Putin HATERS who knows any history going back longer than a corporate state media headline.
Here’s what a recent history of Russia Ukraine War book for US exceptionalists and fanboys looks like.
Title = Russia invades Ukraine
Page 1 = Why? What’s the historical background?
Page 2 = Putin evil.
Page 3 = The End.
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It’s funny listening to the the highly insecure westerners and their few, simple cut-N-paste headlines for the last 27.5 months.
*Russian military is devastated, everyday for the last 27.5 months.
*The Russian economy is in shambles, everyday for 27.5 months.
*Putin has lost all support everyday for the last 27.5 months.
And for the last 27.5 months the plebs have been eating it up. All the establishment MSM need do is cut-N-past any headline that states that Russians and Putin are suffering and the plebs will get click click click away to get their daily schadenfreude dopamine squirts and false feelings of moral superiority. You would think after 27.5 months a few of them would clue into the impossibility of some of these things carrying on for 27.5 months.
Not to mention how there is so much information that is contrary to the headlines including some straight from the horses mouth - The US owned and run World Bank that is headquartered in Washington DC.
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*Russia is now the fourth largest economy in the world – World Bank*
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“The World Bank has just updated its data on the size of the world’s economies where it states that since 2021, the Russian economy has become the fourth largest economy in the world, surpassing both Japan and Germany.*
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“Russia economy has become the fourth largest in the world despite:
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Its population being less than half of that of the USA and a mere tenth of both China’s and India’s
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Being at war and faced with unprecedented sanctions (over 20,000 of them)”
https://simonmercieca.com/2024/06/02/russia-is-now-the-fourth-largest-economy-in-the-world-world-bank/
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Oh I can see it in my minds eye - all the Putin-Russia haters furiously going for their keyboards in a bid to find some way to square this circle.
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The west has thrown everything they have at Russia and The Russians have chewed it up and spat it out and it has made them StrongeR.
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Here’s the new headline:’How The West Was Done’
November 11th, 2024
Never been to Russia, don’t speak the language, never read a book on Russian history, BUT am 100% that Putin is the cartoon villain the western MSM makes him out as. Not one of you clowns knows what Putin did in the KGB. You say KGB like it’s supposed to scare me. This is because you know nothing about what intelligence officers do. You have a James Bond villain template in your head for every non western intelligence officer.
Putin has a law degree and speaks at least 3 languages. I’ve heard him speak German (he spent loads of time in Germany) I”ve also heard him speak English.
Oh and if you want to see Ukrainian nationals (Nazis) Do a google image search - Ukraine, Nazi’s Tattoos and look at hundreds of proud unique neo Nazis pea cocking their Nazi & Bandara tatoos. Ukraine had the 2nd bigggest Nazi party in WW2 after Hungry and they murdered many many people look it up Ukraine is another place none of you have never been and you know nothing of until 5 mins ago and what you were told comes from the US empire’s corporate state media. If you are remotely left leaning, you would hate to live there and be scared shitless. It’s corrupt as hell and makes American hype masculinity look like Mr Rodgers. It’s primitive in many areas.
US empire’s corporate state media. I’m no fan of Trum he’s a POS, but the US media were criminal in the amount of BS they made up and/or printed without checking. They hounded him for years and what did the big investigation reveal? No American was under greater scrutiny from US agencies and yet not one single charge on the Russia gate hysterics.
I hate US conservative climate change deniers, but I have come to hate almost all western liberals even more so Trump just won again Ha ha ha losers.
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*Robert Mueller Did Not Merely Reject the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theories. He Obliterated Them.
Certain facts will never go away no matter how much media elites deny them. That Mueller charged no Americans with election conspiracy crimes is the most fatal.
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/18/robert-mueller-did-not-merely-reject-the-trumprussia-conspiracy-theories-he-obliterated-them/
Read it and weep
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