Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels’ Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx

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  illodiini
  May 7th, 2021
  

  While surely historically interesting, I’ve been told these are excruciatingly heavy and boring read. These guys were academics in every way, and weren’t afraid to show it.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  caesar963
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Boring? But I thought it was supposed to be a communist “party” - with all the fun ‘n frolics which that implies?

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  illodiini
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Well, I once saw V.I. Lenin’s Collected Works 1-45 in an old book store, and all were massive tomes with tiny font. Now, that series would have been a blast to run through.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  illodiini
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Marx and Engels were like Martin and Lewis compared to Lenin, I’m told. Even touching a spine almost put me into coma.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  marcodiluce
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Just hope that enough dupes will be reading/listening to dope out how really boring and illusory this stuff is!

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  caesar963
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Laurel & Hardy would be a closer anal-ogy (as the Marx Bros would be far too dialectically str8forward)

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  MattyNk
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Engels, along with his buddy, is responsible for human misery on an unimaginable scale.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  illodiini
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Actually, many of the rights and privileges you take for granted comes from those two. Obviously some of their ideas and follow-ups were better than others. And I’m fairly sure they didn’t put anyone to jail or on the rack. Like, say, Bush the dummer and Trump.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  Webby1948
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Thank you kindly. I’ll take the time to listen to this and make up my own mind. Many people confuse the perversion of Engel’s philosophy with the philosophy itself.Stalin was a psychopath, and what he did was neither Marx nor Engels’ fault. Both men were driven by a desire to improve the lot of the common man. Stalin was driven by egotism and a homicidal nature. Trouble was, he had the power to exercise them.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  caesar963
  May 7th, 2021
  

  Well, legal, civil, political, and human rights predate them, and advanced in spite of their doctrine of “concentrated terror” & authoritarianism.

  As we know, the consequences of their brutal ideology were truly appalling.

  Think of the people who had to live under those systems for so long (the grinding tyranny & cruel despotism) - to feel that much fear and want all the time would take a terrible toll on the mind & the body. And the certain knowledge that things would never get any better, just more concentrated terror and poverty/slavery for their children and each succeeding generation.
  Like Orwell’s image - the boot stamping on a human face.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  Privateering
  May 8th, 2021
  

  while i appreciate the positive intent of many in the far left, they couldn’t pick a more poisonous mental toolkit than communism. The irony is the majority haven’t listened to the communist manifesto, which illustrates the mental illness of abolishing property and family and all semblance of structure in a society.

  If they really want to make a change they should investigate permaculture, anarchism and free market sustainable capitalism

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  illodiini
  May 8th, 2021
  

  Let’s put it this way: The Civil War in America was about human rights. So was the revolution in Russia. The one in Russia failed almost totally in its objectives, the one called laughably “Civil” failed in parts. I’m not talking about those objectives the leaders had in mind. The human misery continued in Russia, and while slavery got abolished in USA, it didn’t change the mind frame of people in a long while.
  I believe in non-violence and common sense, and I think there is always a possible solution if we, as thinking human beings, put our minds to it.
  Of course, if your goal is to get everything to yourself immediately, as it seem, there is little hope of fast progress. Marx & Engels’ recipe to make an omelet was to break eggs and break heads. But the goal was to put an end to human misery. Their solution was bloody and counterproductive, for sure. And in America they just stopped after the initial speeches by the winner. Now you’re paying for it.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  Eddiejb1980
  May 8th, 2021
  

  

  I’m not saying Communism is the answer to anything, but to judge the success of communism based on its practice in the USSR is like saying all guns are bad because some people use them to kill other people. The communism used in the USSR is the WORST example of what socialism, and then eventually communism is. Again, I’m not an advocate for communism, but to judge the failure and success of communism based on the USSR asinine.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  caesar963
  May 9th, 2021
  

  That would p’haps be fair, Eddie, if the criticism was entirely confined to the USSR & its colonies in Eastern Europe, etc. - and Marxism’s (& socialism’s) critics were mendaciously ignoring all the successes of the ideology all across the globe, and throughout the last century.

  Unfortunately, that’s where your analysis hits a not inconsiderable snag. Having been attempted, in real-world conditions, in many different cultures & at separate times, the ideology’s success rate stands at a weirdly impressive zero. A 100% rate of failure is not negligible, by any means.

  Unless, by success they would volunteer mountains of corpses, the creation of slave states, concentration camps, forced famines, genocide, torture, secret police, the absence of all rights (legal, civil, political, natural & human), brutal war & invasions, and total economic collapse.

  However, rational people measure success slightly differently. Tendentious, I know.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  caesar963
  May 9th, 2021
  

  For pity’s sake, even the title is like a bullet in the brain.

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx
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  el_lissitzky
  June 11th, 2021
  

  

  Great stuff but no substitute for reading Marx himself!

  Friedrich Engels Box Set: Revolution and Counter-Revolution; Manifesto of the Communist Party; The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State; & Engels' Speech at the Grave of Karl Marx - Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, Eleanor Marx

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