Darwin Devolves: The New Science About DNA That Challenges Evolution - Michael J. Behe
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In his controversial best-seller Darwin’s Black Box, biochemist Michael Behe challenged Darwin’s theory of evolution, arguing that science itself has proven that intelligent design is a better explanation for the origin of life. In Darwin Devolves, Behe advances his argument, presenting new research that offers a startling reconsideration of how Darwin’s mechanism works, weakening the theory’s validity even more.
A system of natural selection acting on random mutation, evolution can help make something look and act differently. But evolution never creates something organically. Behe contends that Darwinism actually works by a process of devolution - damaging cells in DNA in order to create something new at the lowest biological levels. This is important, he makes clear, because it shows the Darwinian process cannot explain the creation of life itself. “A process that so easily tears down sophisticated machinery is not one which will build complex, functional systems,” he writes.
In addition to disputing the methodology of Darwinism and how it conflicts with the concept of creation, Behe reveals that what makes intelligent design unique - and right - is that it acknowledges causation. Evolution proposes that organisms living today are descended with modification from organisms that lived in the distant past. But intelligent design goes a step further, asking: What caused such astounding changes to take place? What is the reason or mechanism for evolution? For Behe, this is what makes intelligent design so important.
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This post has 39 comments with rating of 4.5/5
May 1st, 2019
Why is this tagged as non-fiction / science? It’s just creationism with a new paint-job.
May 1st, 2019
Mebbill, 100% correct!
May 1st, 2019
This is 100% false and has no basis in science at all. It’s just religion trying to spread lies.
May 1st, 2019
^^^ I meant the book of course, not other posters!
May 1st, 2019
cat ebook > /dev/null
May 1st, 2019
this guys a clown and it’s not science book, also, it’s a fiction.
May 1st, 2019
Welcome, Guest.
Wow, where do you start? Very few ideas are “100% false” - save the twin evils of Marxism/fascism. One of the (if not the) most fascinating questions: how did lifeless matter become living matter? The chain of causation factor. The theory of evolution, far from displacing religious faith, can happily co-exist with it. This places the putative, imagined debate in illuminating context.
However, can the concept of “nothing” be at all meaningful? What can come from nothing? Why is there something rather than nothing? The argument from contingency can help to clarify your thought in this critical domain. Why be afraid to follow the evidence - wherever it leads? It’s not about emotional rejectionism - by people of any persuasion. That’s merely a species of wishful thinking, and confirmation bias upon stilts. Don’t make ratiocination the slave of your predetermined, agenda-laden conclusion.
You have to be able to distinguish the immanent universe from the transcendent.
May 1st, 2019
How can Marxism or fascism be 100% false smooth brain?
May 1st, 2019
Well, no brain, they don’t work. Much like your question, they fail to function. They consume themselves, and millions upon millions of human lives. That’s what happens when you attempt to construct an edifice on false, evil ideology (evil being an absence).
Sarcastic apologies if you’re emotionally attached to the Marxism/fascism lie.
They are utterly anti-life.
May 1st, 2019
hasn’t even read the book already condemns it for 100% false. The absolute state of “enlightened scientist” here
May 1st, 2019
caesar963,
Ideas aren’t facts, they’re thoughts. That’s why people back up their theories with facts, to lend them credibility. Asking an unexplained question or questions and filling in the blank with a religious wish list is not that. I’ll give you this, what people have considered facts over the years have changed, but going back to creationism, an idea that’s never held its own under scientific scrutiny is not going to fill in the blanks with any factual answers. This belongs next to books by Hubbard about Xenu.
May 1st, 2019
yootoo, I don’t particularly need to read the book. Behe is, IIRC, a member of the Discovery Institute, a chriatian young-earth creationist outfit. Their mission statement says all facts must be viewed though a faith-filter, and boils down to “goddit, and we’re going to prove it.” If your guidelines demand faith is more important than facts, it isn’t science, it’s religion.
May 1st, 2019
Clearly there’s a facts vs values dichotomy, with one, of necessity, guiding the other. I can’t speak to the validity of the book, but evolution is intuitively a functioning theory. However, certainty is counter-intuitive, and quite dangerous. Definitive answers are very difficult to come by, and indeed do have a tendency to ‘evolve.’ But that does not mean, of course, that inconvenient, hard questions should remain unasked. Bias is an inescapable feature of the human project. Following the evidence, especially if it leads in uncomfortable directions, is absolutely critical. Tailoring and shaping established facts to fit our prejudices is worse than useless. As is politicised science. This has universal application.
Interesting comment, not reliant on invective as “proof.”
May 1st, 2019
@mebebill Contrary to what you claim, Discovery Institute has nothing to do with pushing a Christian agenda nor with “young Earth creationism”. And Behe’s work is independent of it.
Was the truth relevant to you before making that comment?
PS. I just read their news/resource website https://evolutionnews.org/
May 1st, 2019
Didn’t Kitzmiller v Dover Area School Board (2005) put this nonsense to bed once and for all? During this trial, Behe actually, when defending his opinion on what constitutes a “scientific theory”, admitted that astrology would be allowed to be considered a scientific endeavour. His a priori approach to this matter flies in the face of scientific enquiry.
May 1st, 2019
In Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) Behe was revealed to be an alchemist, a White Walker and Keyser Sö & so. That’s all been fact-checked by our unimpeachable source, notmebill.
Stick a fork in it, it’s done.
May 2nd, 2019
Instead of bhoys1967 short conclusion, you can read the nuanced conversation between Behe and Mr. Muise.
Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Trial transcript: Day 11 (October 18), PM Session, Part 1
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day11pm.html#day11pm132
bhoys1967’s comment amounts to an opinionated objection.
May 2nd, 2019
So, why all the bogus, dishonest attacks on this author? Is the book that dangerous that he has to be “taken out?” Allow the arguments to stand or fall on their merits, rather than engaging in this weird, cult-like behaviour.
May 2nd, 2019
Behe’s thesis that, “for the Darwinian theory of evolution to be true, it has to account for the molecular structure of life. It is the purpose of [Darwin’s Black Box] to show that it does not” has been soundly refuted by several books, including:
The Vital Question: Why is Life the Way it is by Nick Lane
The Machinery of Life by David S. Goodsell
May 2nd, 2019
https://darwindevolves.com/criticism/
“With the release of Michael Behe’s Darwin Devolves, the scientific dialogue between its detractors and defenders continues. Here we collect some of the most noteworthy criticisms and responses by Michael Behe and others.”
See the “Criticism & Response” page.
May 2nd, 2019
Behe got destroyed in a court of law, look up the Dover trials and the Texas school board. This is because courts require actual evidence and Intelligent Design has zero.
May 2nd, 2019
aiche, if truth is relevant to you, as you’re trying to imply it isn’t to me, try the following:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute
and google searches for
“discovery institute wedge document”
“discovery institute cdesign proponentsists”
Creationism in drag, (im)pure and simple.
As for you, caesar963, since you can’t actually argue a point, you’re lying. Shows me all I really need to know about you.
In any event, I’m done with this.
May 2nd, 2019
So you link to a blog, where the same narrative is parroted.
Your comment amounts to ad hominems. This is your (copy-pasted) “smoking gun”?
“Naturally, many of our scholars and scientists are also working to develop competing hypotheses and theories, including theories of intelligent design and theories that defend the reality and irreducibility of human agency, responsibility and consciousness.
As it happens, many of these fellows think that new discoveries in science either support, or are consonant with, a “broadly theistic” world-view. The “Wedge Document” makes the philosophical significance of our work—its challenge to scientific materialism and its favorable implications for theism—known to potential supporters. Even so, the case that our scientists have made against neo-Darwinism or for design is based on scientific evidence. Scientists of various (and no) religious persuasions have formulated such arguments (see below). Their work stands on its own.
In any case, the “Wedge Document” articulates a strategy for influencing science and culture with our ideas through research, reasoned argument and open debate. As our not-so-secret secret document put it, “without solid scholarship, research and argument, the project would be just another attempt to indoctrinate instead of persuade.”
We fail to see any scandal in this. Nor have we been able see how any fair-minded person who had actually read the “Wedge Document,” or who had any acquaintance with our actual work, could attribute to us the nefarious views and motives that Professor Forrest and others have assigned us. The “Wedge Document” articulates a plan for reasoned persuasion, not political control.”
Continues: https://www.discovery.org/m/2019/04/Wedge-Document-So-What.pdf
May 2nd, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQgOjHsMEeE
“Over 1000 doctoral scientists from around the world have signed a statement publicly expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution.” February 2019
May 2nd, 2019
^ https://dissentfromdarwin.org/
May 2nd, 2019
“Gentlemen, no fighting! No fighting in the War Room!”
@youbewrong (mebebill, or whatever) - Au contraire, my fallacious “friend” - aiche exposed you desperately attempting several different lies simultaneously. Immediately opting for mendacity clearly demonstrates a complete absence of knowledge, and failure of ability to reason & argue logically.
Of course, you’re not actually arguing any point, you’re just reliant on other people’s arguments because you manifestly fail to understand the domain.
Hopelessly linking to agenda-burdened sites also doesn’t serve the interests of truth.
Mindless abuse will not avail you. Nor will projection.
I regret to say that craven, panicky withdrawal is indeed your only smart play at this point. Self-preservation for your selfish genes.
May 2nd, 2019
It sure is funny how my fellow evolutionists get all high and mighty about being oh so scientific and fact-based compared to the totally backwards IDers, bruh, yet they can’t accept the reality of human groups that spent 50,000 to a 100,000 years apart being affected by evolution, even when it comes to measurable things such as brain size, intelligence, but also aggressiveness. Please, at least have the coherence to accept that evolution has no reason to stop at humans, particularly when Africa spent thousands of years longer in a tribal state, promoting the most aggressive men, while the cold winters of the northern hemisphere promoted the most intelligent and planning men. If you can’t accept the reality of that, you don’t get to feel high and mighty about how oh-so-fact-based and what cold, logical monuments to reason you are *tips fedora*
May 2nd, 2019
Darwin’s theory of evolution doesn’t account for how life began, nor was it meant to. It is a straw man and a red herring to fault it for this. If you can’t see the connections that Behe has with creationism/intelligent design, even in the title alone, there is no hope for your thinking process. Stick with your English major.
Of course, back in reality, evolution is perfectly adequate to explain the emergence of complexities and every scientist knows this.
May 2nd, 2019
what is the “average” rate of evolutionary mutation.
try get a straight answer to this question
they wont answer it
May 2nd, 2019
This is definitely not science. Science begins from perceived facts and then forumulates a (logical) theory to explain them. Darwin’s theory of evolution is an excellent example of a scientific theory (illustrated by the fossil record, beaks of finches, etc). Intelligent design, on the other hand, starts from a religious story and then searches so called ‘facts’ to explain it. Not science.
May 2nd, 2019
I’ve made an error whilst typing … it should be ‘formulates’ an not ‘forumulates’, of course. :)
May 21st, 2019
Luciferian scientism shall no longer be illuminating!
May 30th, 2019
I am an apathiest. I dont care one way or the other. I do find it is good to know all sides of the argument. It helps to understand why people do the things they do.
Evolution seems to be backed up with science so I am going to go with that. Evolution does not exclude the exist of God, just all the religions that I am aware of.
Thanks for the upload!
September 17th, 2019
Wow! With all this fascinating posting, I can’t wait to read this book…and all the rest. Would prefer recommendations on other solid reading material. Please feel free to upload everything that really matters. It will be appreciated, I’m sure. Also, I just paid my gas bill, in case you’re interested.
October 5th, 2019
mebebill, if you were even slightly familiar with literature, you would know that opposing viewspoints, whether varying by way of religious perspective or scientific methodology, it is still classified as non-fiction.
February 2nd, 2020
wow, i kind of feel like im in the twilight zone here. I have always found caesar to be reasonable and usually on the side of rational thought and science. I gotta say, im shocked to find he is an anti-evolution creationist / intelligent design proponent. even more so, that he seems to willfully ignore his usual rational thought and logical reasoning when it comes to this subject. Its like he has a blindsight in this specific case. I feel like its april fools day, or we are being punked or something by caesar here. bizarre
btw, while I am no fan to the tone and attitude rationalwiki takes on many subjects, I think they could be more unbiased and dispassionate in some of their articles, they usually present at least accurate information. I actually read there page on Behe yesterday, as well as many reviews of this book and others. Including the pages linked to by aiche. It surprises me that you dont see the total nonsensical rebuttals to the totally valid critism to Behe and his claims. Its like ID people dont see the irony behind complaining evolution theory cant explain absolutely everything about everything, but then neither can they so they just claim some supernatural being did it. Like thats a reasonable answer or solution? seriously? Evolution doesnt have to explain absolutely everything they want, it works and has been proven valid in every sense. We dont know everything in the universe, but attributing it to a supernatural designer is not science. How is that not obvious? Instead of rebutting the criticism with facts or science, they just attack the people or claim they dont understand what Behe (or others) are trying to say. No, they understand completely, Behe is just wrong and has been proven so by basically all of the scientific community.
April 8th, 2020
The notion that creationism or “intelligent design” and evolution are two equally opposing arguments is a travesty. One is myth, one is science. It may be incomplete, it may be wrong in some cases, but it’s the best attempt to date to find the truth via the scientific method. Creationism on the other hand is taking a myth and trying to make facts support it. This leads to selective dismissal or embrace of data not on it’s merits but on whether or not it’s conducive to one’s religious belief.
If you want to believe in it, fine, but the people who say they want to learn “from both sides” is like people who say they want to learn from both flat-earthers and “globalists” (*rolls eyes*). You can accept information from both of those sides, but only one is right, the other is just a muddied attempt to force information into an inflexible belief system.
In other words, scientific theory can change as new evidence is discovered and proven. Sometimes the scientific community resists this kind of change because they’re human after all, but ultimately, they’re there to learn the truth. Creationists don’t have a “fail state”.. Either something is conducive to their beliefs or it isn’t. There is no evidence true or clear enough that a creationist will stop believing in creationism. They’re not in it for the truth, they’re in it to cast doubt on opposing theories and to “prove” their own mystical belief.
The two aren’t equal and can’t be.
September 26th, 2021
this is true science, not darwinian nonsense!
September 27th, 2021
Hi Can you also upload “edge of evolution” by michael behe
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